<html><head></head><body>Thanks for sharing this original idea that got watered down.<br><br>I was not aware of that. Gated communities sound no good. <br><br>Matheusz, please ask them to share the source of the data and let everyone have the same access to the imagery being used to trace from.<br><br>If they are unable or unwilling to do that I'm unsure if this is of any value to OSM.<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Christoph Hormann <osm@imagico.de> skrev: (3 februari 2021 12:35:44 CET)<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">On Wednesday 03 February 2021, Andy Townsend wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> * The imagery is allegedly OK from a licence standpoint (based on<br>one mapper's changeset comments)<br></blockquote><br>Because of exactly this kind of issue my early draft for regulation of <br>organized editing[1] contained a provision for that:<br><br>"If you use any data in organized mapping activities that has not been <br>directly observed on the ground by the mapper and that is not routinely <br>used by normal mapping in OSM (like those listed in Potential <br>Datasources or Aerial imagery or the OSM Editor Layer Index) you need <br>to follow Import/Guidelines in addition."<br><br>What this rule was meant to address in particular was the potential <br>formation of gated mapping communities with exclusive access to <br>specific data sources which would work massively against OSMs core idea <br>of egalitarian cooperation between mappers.<br><br>Unfortunately only a mallable documentation requirement remained from <br>that idea in actual OSMF policy.<br><br>To answer the question from Mateusz - mapping that is being made:<br><br>* specifically for OSM use,<br>* based exclusively on on-the-ground knowledge and primary data like <br>imagery,<br>* by human mappers who have full control over every part of the data <br>generation process and<br>* that does not use any kind of automated conflation with existing data<br><br>does in my opinion not fall under the import or automated edits <br>guidelines, even if it is made in large volume. Note however that <br>especially the last condition is very hard to meet in most parts of the <br>world these days when you make extensive edits in bulk.<br><br>[1] <br><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Directed_Editing_Policy/Imagico_Draft">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Directed_Editing_Policy/Imagico_Draft</a><br></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>