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<p><font face="Verdana">OK, in Australia the user is </font><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="breno-au">breno-au</a>.</p>
<p>Seems to be an import, because lots of documented and generated
data in one of the changesets (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/93102779">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/93102779</a>).
No comment in the changeset, I will leave a comment to find out
more.</p>
<p>Greetings,</p>
<p>Bert Araali<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/03/2021 22:22, Bert -Araali- Van
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<p><font face="Verdana">I used the following Overpass query and
concentrated on the same behaviour in the road_name key.</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/14vv">https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/14vv</a><br>
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<p><font face="Verdana">I could trace it back to user <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="cmi3j89d9o">cmi3j89d9o</a> in
Taiwan. His/her edits fit about the time-frame in the Taginfo
Chronology.</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">Still working on the same in Melbourne /
Sydney area in Australia.</font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/03/2021 22:08, Pierre Béland
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list of 107 highways who have with both highway and road
with the same classification. I validate each and remove
the road tag.<br>
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<div> Le mercredi 3 mars 2021 13 h 38 min 30 s UTC−5, Pierre
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<div dir="ltr">Looking again at the chronology, we
see that road=yes is often combined with the key
highway. These road=yes could be removed.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">This Overpass query shows 706 such
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<div> Le mercredi 3 mars 2021 13 h 20 min 29 s
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<p><font face="Verdana">Seems to proceed
in the same extend with the key
road_name.<br clear="none">
All values are in an Asian script, I
presume Chinese, geograhically
concentrated in Taiwan and Melbourne,
Australia.</font></p>
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<p><font face="Verdana">Just the key
"road=*", search for road in Taginfo
tab KEY.<br clear="none">
In Taginfo I searched for the key,
got a long list with all kinds of
keys containing the word "road",
then selected just "road" from the
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<p><font face="Verdana">If you go to
chronology tab you see the spikes
very clearly.</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">Greetings,</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">Bert Araali</font><br
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<div dir="ltr">please, give us more
details about the tags you spotted
in taginfo as not valid, not using
the highway key.</div>
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be easy for us to propose an
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<div> Le mercredi 3 mars 2021 12 h
18 min 37 s UTC−5, Bert -Araali-
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<p><font face="Verdana">Dear
all,</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">I was
recently working on some
local proposals and,
through taginfo, saw some
recent spikes in the use
of the non approved and
discouraged use of the
road key (should be
highway).<br clear="none">
The spikes, due to their
amount and short
time-frame in which they
appear seem to be
indicating unnoticed mass
or automated edits.<br
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Do they need closer
attention / investigation
and action to revert ?<br
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<p><font face="Verdana">1. Jan
2017 - spike of +-500,
seems to be reverted by
+-300 by Mar 2017<br
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2. Mar 2019 - spike of
+-400, not reverted<br
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3. Sep/Okt 2020 to Feb
2021 - spike of +-800, not
reverted and continuing at
a worrying rate</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">These
3 spikes together make up
3/4 of the total use cases
of the road key.<br
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<p><font face="Verdana">Would
appreciate some help with
taginfo / overpass trubo /
other tools to get more
insight on the phenomena.</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">Greetings,</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">Bert
Araali<br clear="none">
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