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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">W dniu 13.07.2021 o 18:50, Christoph
Hormann pisze:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:202107131850.48982.osm@imagico.de">All
we have in common universally and that we can universally rely on
is the common
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">database and the principles under which we add and edit information in
that database. And the most fundamental of these principles is - "by
virtue of common sense" and not through an English language attempt at
explaining it on the wiki - the principle of verifiability.</pre>
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<p>So why we have all the guidelines and documentation, if all we
should ever need is a common sense? Mapping would be very simple
then.<br>
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<p>All the guidelines are limited and OSM is not an exception. We
have it both documented and it is also a common sense:</p>
<p><i>There might be cases where these guidelines don't apply, or
even contradict each other. </i></p>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">It seems to me you are contradicting yourself in what you write - you
call for limiting and relativizing the principle of verifiability just
to a few paragraphs later call for stricter and clearer rules and their
enforcement. That does not fit together.</pre>
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<p>I think the problem you perceive comes from mixing "principles"
(ideas) with actual "guidelines" (documentation).<br>
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<p>In general (principle) I think we agree that we want to check
things and not make things up. But the problem is that the written
guideline is insufficient for some objects, especially big ones,
so until it's extended/fixed/sanitized, it's of limited use in
this case, because "OSM data should, <b>as far as is reasonably
possible</b>, be verifiable" - and it's not reasonably possible
to the full extent in this case.<br>
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<p>Common sense explains why this guideline is limited and strongly
biased towards small objects - because we started as a local
project with bicycles in the city and we just happened to grow
since then without rethinking how that applies to global objects.<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
"Holy mother forking shirt balls!" [E. Shellstrop]</pre>
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