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<p>Hi Daniel,</p>
<p>full agreement.</p>
<p>Marcos</p>
<p>Am 14.07.2021 22:59, schrieb Daniel Koć:</p>
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<div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: monospace">W dniu 14.07.2021 o 16:47, Christoph Hormann pisze:<br /> <br />
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin: 0">On the contrary - the irony is that <br /> practically all of the attacks against this principle come from wealthy <br /> hedonist Europeans and North Americans (or people from elsewhere <br /> assimilated into European and North American cultures) who feel <br /> inconvenienced by the verifiability principle in pursuit of their <br /> subjective goals in the project.</blockquote>
<br /> I don't see the attack on any principles, we still agree on general<br /> things. It's just a clear criticism of guidelines which are incomplete<br /> and are hardly applicable for big objects. They should be extended for<br /> such a broad class or simply ignored outside their scope - just as it is<br /> written.<br /> <br /> <br />
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin: 0">In my experience local mappers from other regions and cultural <br /> backgrounds typically embrace the principle of verifiability very <br /> naturally and intuitively and often without any guidance from a <br /> document in their language imposing it as a normative principle.</blockquote>
<br /> Exactly my point - the key is a word "local". Try to say "I'm local to<br /> the ocean/planet" and it's clear how limited it really is and why it<br /> doesn't work for all the cases.<br /> <br /> <br />
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin: 0">In other words: It did not only come to be the main guiding principle <br /> in mapping in OSM by virtue of common sense, it also continues to be <br /> renewed and re-confirmed every day by mappers as such through the <br /> collective cross-cultural common sense of the global mapping <br /> community - expressed not primarily in words but in their actions as <br /> mappers.</blockquote>
<br /> The more vague principles and bigger words, the less usable it is for<br /> the real mapping. "Let's have a great map" sounds very nice and proper,<br /> but it tells nothing about how to do it, so it is not really applicable.<br /> </div>
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