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<div>Similarly I suspect that some were paid by/measured by reduction<br></div><div dir="auto">of problems no longer detected by validators.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Note that "problem is fixed" and "problem is no longer detected by validator"<br></div><div dir="auto">is not the same.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Overall, in cases like this there is no chance that simple metrics will work.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">See "When a measure becomes a metric, it ceases to be a good measure.", or<br></div><div dir="auto">in an original form<br></div><div dir="auto">"Any observed statistical regularity will tend to collapse once pressure is placed<br></div><div dir="auto">upon it for control purposes."<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law</a><br></div><div><br></div><div dir="auto">And that is why quality of paid editing is usually problematic - if someone is not<br></div><div dir="auto">caring about map quality, they just want to get paid you will get various bad<br></div><div dir="auto">effects.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Similarly to people caring more about changeset count than actual<br></div><div dir="auto">improvement. Or when they want their map to have purple color<br></div><div dir="auto">in a given area and are not interested about anything else.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It may be better if people involved actually care about map quality,<br></div><div dir="auto">not just about graph going up or KPI being large and green.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div>Oct 16, 2021, 02:21 by jwhelan0112@gmail.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="auto"><div>At the moment I've noticed what I think is a "commercial" or paid mapper converting highway=residential to highway=path on a number of African villages. There is nothing especially wrong with this but previously I noticed another paid mapper retagging highways which has got me thinking.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Do I get the impression that companies are measuring the work of their employees by the length of highways they have touched?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Is there a way to say this mapper has added xyz kilometres of highway? If there was it might prevent the temptation to game the system by changing a few tags.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The mapper changed tags on a highway that was next to two clusters of buildings, houses? My personal opinion is their time would have been better spent adding the hamlets or villages and adding connecting highways to them.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The country concerned is missing a thousand or so settlements at a conservative guess and many settlements have no highways connecting them hence the thought that they could be more productively employed if we had better metrics.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thoughts?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks John<br></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div> </body>
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