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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Oct 17, 2021, 16:09 by andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 at 12:08, Mateusz Konieczny via talk<br></div><div><talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote:<br></div><blockquote><div>Oct 17, 2021, 12:01 by andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk:<br></div><div><br></div><div>> On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 at 06:20, Mateusz Konieczny via talk<br></div><div><talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><div>>> that is why quality of paid editing is usually problematic<br></div><div><br></div><div>> Is it? Or do we only see low-quality paid editing brought here for discussion<br></div><div>(or to the Data Working Group for reversion), while good quality paid editing<br></div><div>goes unremarked?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Maybe it depends on area but in Poland overall value of paid editing<br></div><div>is negative in my impression.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>But I'm not asking about your impression - which you'd already stated<br></div><div>as fact - but about the actual facts; or indeed, whether it is even<br></div><div>possible to measure the actual facts, with the data available to us.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">As you are well aware noone has data of such quality.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Unless you actually have data for Poland that measured<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">- quality of added data<br></div><div dir="auto">- time needed to clean up wrong data<br></div><div dir="auto">- mappers discouraged by low quality mapping by paid editors<br></div><div dir="auto">- mappers encouraged by low quality mapping by paid editors<br></div><div dir="auto">- mappers discouraged by presence of paid editors at all<br></div><div dir="auto">- mappers motivated by presence of paid editors at all<br></div><div dir="auto">- etc<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As usual with sociology getting some useful, objective and not trivially gamed<br></div><div dir="auto">metric is incredibly hard, and far more serious fields than OSM mapping<br></div><div dir="auto">have failed to achieve them.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And it is typical that some effects that most missed is actually <br></div><div dir="auto">stronger that measured ones.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So it will be hard to get better that set of biased impressions.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Unless you can provide "actual facts" about quality of paid mapping?<br></div> </body>
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