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</head><body text="#000000">One quick fix for data quality would be to
add a buildings_tool to iD.<br>
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This particular mapper / company is also adding lots of highways in a
low income Africa and for that reason alone I'd prefer not to name
them. My concern at the moment is mapping unmapped villages and adding
connecting highways. Very basic stuff but if you're going to vaccinate
against COVID then this is the very basic infrastructure stuff you need.
Houses to do population counts are would be nice but you can
approximate from the size of the village or hamlet. <br>
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However over the years I've seen this sort of behaviour many times. Yes
companies like to know what they are paying for and micro mapping
school playgrounds might not be in their commerial interests, although
if you sell equipment for playgrounds there could be a case.<br>
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I just wondered if we could offer them a metric which would be
meaningful to them and reflected more what had been added rather than
tagged changed. This isn't data quality so much as extracting something
useful out of their mappers' time.<br>
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Thanks<br>
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Cheerio John<br>
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<span>Andy Townsend wrote on 10/17/2021 6:57 AM:</span><br>
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<div dir="auto">On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 at 06:20, Mateusz Konieczny
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<div dir="auto">> that is why quality of paid editing is
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<div dir="auto">Is it? Or do we only see low-quality paid
editing brought here for discussion (or to the Data Working
Group for reversion), while good quality paid editing goes
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<p>I'm not convinced that paid editing is "usually problematic", but
I think that it is fair to say that it is "usually of a lower
quality than editing by a non-paid mapper of similar experience".
I don't think that is surprising - if I buy a table from someone
whose hobby is woodwork it's likely to be better made than if I
get a flatpack from a big "Tables R Us" or similar on the
outskirts of town.</p>
<p>From a "quality of OSM" point of view, sometimes it'd be nice if
paid mappers had the time when fixing "obviously broken" things to
investigate what else is wrong. One example I remember was where
a couple of mappers had (in good faith, but with unfortunately
little experience of OSM) merged lots of road segments together,
creating lots of "ref=A1;A2;A3" and "lanes=1;2;3;4". The paid
mappers who fixed some of the errors tended to fix one tag but not
the other, and tended not to use overpass to go back in time to
see the previous situation before the merges (why would they?
It's time consuming and not well documented).</p>
<p>However, looking at it from the other side, and going back to
John's original question, if I was paying mappers to map roads so
that my delivery company can deliver things I'd be pretty annoyed
if instead of mapping roads they mapped schools or hospitals
instead, despite that being "more helpful" to the map in
$country. If I take my car into the garage and ask them to fix
the exhaust, and one of the lights needs fixing I don't expect
them to fix that as well for free; I also don't want them to do it
without asking and bill me for it.</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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