<div dir="ltr">Hi Paul,<div><br>Thanks for following up!</div><div><br>I may have given the wrong impression here by referring to Google streetview. We do not use other sources to contribute to OSM, rather we use them to try to find supporting (or opposing, as the case may be) evidence that backs up an edit request we get from landowners or organisations who contact komoot. What that means in practice are things like: If someone claims a path doesn't exist and should be removed on OSM but we can clearly see one on Google, we know that we can't take that at face value. If someone claims a path is in a protected area but that isn't included up in the official state maps of nature conservation areas, we know that they aren't being completely upfront. We try to somehow prove or backup the requests we get by looking at other sources of available information, since we can't visit every path that gets reported to us. If we have any reason at all to doubt the report, we say we don't have sufficient proof to edit anything.<br><br>We only direct a small proportion of cases to the Data Working Group and those are indeed in the case of disputes. We started doing this based on feedback from members of the Data Working Group, where they explicitly asked us to do so. So far, we haven't received any comments that suggest that we're handling this wrong but we're happy to change our process here, if that is the case.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 at 18:30, Paul Norman via talk <<a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 2021-11-03 8:48 a.m., Eleonora Balbi via talk wrote:<br>
> We compare against any and all other sources of information we have <br>
> available (e.g. via Google Streetview) to see if there's anything we <br>
> might be missing or misunderstanding.<br>
<br>
You cannot use Google Streetview to contribute to OSM. Their terms <br>
prohibit it.<br>
<br>
> If we have any reason to believe that the request isn't valid or if <br>
> the information is incomplete, contradictory, or otherwise not clear, <br>
> we never change anything on OSM and will always explain why. At most, <br>
> we direct those requests to the Data Working Group at OSM.<br>
Why are you directing requests to the Data Working Group? It sounds like <br>
what you're talking about is editing requests, not vandalism or disputes <br>
beyond the normal means of the community.<br>
<br>
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