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I believe the distinction here is between "referencing" and
"using". I.e. nothing can stop you making yourself aware of
something by looking up a reference book, map, photo etc but that
does not necessarily allow you to "use" the information for your own
work. For that you need to do your own labour, like going out and
surveying. <br>
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FYI, this came up when we, the then OSMF License Working Group were
talking to the South African mapping directorate, who were very
cooperative. They monitor OpenStreetMap for changes, and then send
their folks out to do a detailed survey. It allows them to
concentrate their resources and we were quite happy about that.
Seems a similar situation here.<br>
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Mike<br>
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Thanks for following up!</div>
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I may have given the wrong impression here by referring
to Google streetview. We do not use other sources to
contribute to OSM, rather we use them to try to find
supporting (or opposing, as the case may be) evidence
that backs up an edit request we get from landowners or
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<div>I am not a lawyer, but the Google terms of service would
seem to prohibit such use[0]:</div>
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<div><strong
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Prohibited
Conduct....</strong></div>
<div><span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">use
Google Maps/Google Earth to create or augment any other
mapping-related dataset (including a mapping or navigation
dataset, business listings database, mailing list, or
telemarketing list) for use in a service that is a
substitute for, or a substantially similar service to,
Google Maps/Google Earth; </span></div>
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moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.google.com/help/terms_maps/</a></div>
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