<html><head></head><body>Mer Germanique sounds like a tagging error, there is no such thing in common french.<br>Yves (FR) <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 9 décembre 2021 16:14:04 GMT+01:00, Maarten Deen <mdeen@xs4all.nl> a écrit :<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre dir="auto" class="k9mail">Mer Germanique sounds more like it applies to the German Bight, Tyske Bugt.<br><br><a href="https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyske_Bugt">https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyske_Bugt</a><br><br>Regards,<br>Maarten<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">Op 09-12-2021 13:39 schreef Niels Elgaard Larsen <elgaard@agol.dk>:<br><br> <br>På Thu, 9 Dec 2021 14:46:57 +0300<br>Mostafa Ahangarha <ahangarha@riseup.net> skrev:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;">On 12/9/21 2:08 PM, Christoph Hormann wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;">If there is a verifiable local name and what that name is, is the<br>subject to decide on. This question requires familiarity with and<br>local knowledge of the region. People from Europe and North America<br>who 'know' what the name is only from their TV news and newspapers<br>are not qualified to answer that question.<br> <br></blockquote><br>The point is that this gulf is much more that something to be claimed<br>by its neighboring countries. Legally, countries have claim on certain <br>depth of it as their territory and beyond that is international water. <br>Who can name this international water? By referring to International <br>name I don't necessarily mean people (who get these info not just from <br>TV but also text book and other sources, indicting that this is the <br>common name used there) but also in formal sphere.<br></blockquote><br><br>Yes, exactly.<br><br>For example the North Sea is called Vesterhavet (The West Sea) here in<br>Denmark. <br>Historically the Dutch named it Nordzee. And we Danes just have to<br>accept that the dutch name stuck internationally.<br><br>Now that I look it up, I see that in french OSM have it as "Mer<br>Germanique" whereas in fr.Wikipedia it is "Mer du Nord". But I will<br>leave that to native french speaking contributors.<br><br><br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;">There has been different reasons historically why a certain name is <br>chosen for a given place. We cannot close our eyes and overnight come <br>and change that name.<br><br>This Gulf historically was called Persian Gulf. We can even find its <br>trace in some of formal documents in the region. And even today, this <br>gulf is called Persian Gulf internationally. Sure we can find Arabian <br>gulf as well but in terms of number and ratio I don't think one can<br>make a reasonable comparison.<br><br>So if this water body, historically and internationally has a common <br>name, who is there to change this name? How can we come and ask <br>everybody to call it something else? How can I wipe history like this? <br>This water body doesn't belong to any of its neighboring countries so <br>that decision for its name should come from what the international <br>society determine.<br><br></blockquote><hr>talk mailing list<br>talk@openstreetmap.org<br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk</a><br></blockquote><hr>talk mailing list<br>talk@openstreetmap.org<br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk</a><br></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>