<div dir="ltr">While we're on the topic, there are a number of other named geographic reference features that are far more noteworthy that ought to be included if we're including null island, and also they're currently missing from OSM:<div><br></div><div>* The Equator</div><div>* The Prime Meridian and Antimeridian</div><div>* The Arctic and Antarctic circles</div><div>* The Tropics of Cancer and Capricorn</div><div><br></div><div>Each of these objects are easily modeled as a two-node way so they would add vanishingly little space to the database. Clearly each of these are far more notable than null island.</div><div><br></div><div>If we restore Null Island, I'm sure nobody would object to adding these as well?</div><div><br></div><div>Also, we might consider mapping the magnetic north and south poles. Sure they drift a bit, but very slowly. In fact the circles and tropics drift a bit too, but since we implemented the continental drift correction factor a few Aprils ago, it would be trivial to add these objects as well. As an added bonus, the magnetic poles are surveyable by any mapper willing to brave the cold!</div><div><br></div><div>The International Date Line is definitely out, since that ties to time zones, and we don't like time zones in OSM.</div><div><br></div><div>While we're at it, we might as well go ahead and map each of the numbered parallels and meridians. After all, they have a name, and are even notable enough for Wikipedia articles:<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24th_parallel_north">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24th_parallel_north</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Even with this grid of lat/lon lines, it still only adds a bit over 500 new ways to the database, which is hardly any in the grand scheme of things. Whomever maps the forty-ninth parallel north should take special care not to "glue" nodes on the US/Canada border to the parallel - the survey is not exact and some of the boundary markers are a few feet off in either direction, and of course, dropping a node on that way that's even a single bit off would defeat the purpose of having a way exactly on the line of latitude.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 7:50 PM Martin Koppenhoefer <<a href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
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> On 10 Jan 2022, at 00:20, stevea <<a href="mailto:steveaOSM@softworkers.com" target="_blank">steveaOSM@softworkers.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I'll say two things about this again: first, Null Island is "OSM's zero point," the point from which all other references in our ENTIRE MAP start and derive. That alone makes it "somewhat important" (to OSM), at least: it is unique and in a sense "a part of" every single place that OSM represents as data.<br>
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agreed the origin is important, but as it is intrinsic, I do not see a need to add a node there. On the other hand, it is just a single node, in an area where it isn’t really interfering with anything, that’s why it could easily be tolerated despite being pointless as an object.<br>
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Cheers Martin <br>
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