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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Feb 28, 2022, 08:11 by <a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</a>:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>I could envision creating project(s) to complete the border area road network quickly using RapiD which has AI generated roads from
2019-12-30. As we know, it's not perfect but could be better than just asking the crowd to fill in roads manually.<br></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">That is not a good idea, for start there are some border-control roads.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">RapiD is also in my experience in Poland offering suggestions of really low<br></div><div dir="auto">quality, worse that complete beginner to OSM would be.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In general RapiD everywhere requires human review.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Though mapping of roads in Poland based on careful use <br></div><div dir="auto">of Geoportal.gov.pl imagery (and other imagery in rare cases where other imagery is <br></div><div dir="auto">newer, though geoportal.gov.pl is still optimal and gold source of alignment)<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And value from adding roads is lower than adding fake border crossing that is not<br></div><div dir="auto">existing or adding minor/dangerous road as accessible.<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div>Of course open to other suggestions and most importantly don't want to do anything the local community would not condone.<br></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">Usual careful, high-quality mapping would be useful.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Note: mapping in Ukraine should be consulted with community there.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Adding latest news about destroyed bridges may be more helpful for invading<br></div><div dir="auto">Russians who may monitor various sources for info collected by people.<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Peace,<br></div><div>=Russ<br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr" class="" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Russell Deffner<br></div><div><br></div><div><a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:Russell.Deffner@hotosm.org" target="_blank">Russell.Deffner@hotosm.org</a><br></div><div><a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://hotosm.org" target="_blank"><img style="max-width: 100px;" alt="https://hotosm.org" width="96" height="68"></a><br></div><div><span style="color:#888888" class=""><div><br></div></span></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div class=""><blockquote class="" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 11:46:42 +0100 (CET)<br></div><div>From: Mateusz Konieczny <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com" target="_blank">matkoniecz@tutanota.com</a>><br></div><div>To: OSM Talk <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk@openstreetmap.org</a>><br></div><div>Subject: [OSM-talk] Ukraine - how one may help (<a href="http://dopomoha.pl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dopomoha.pl</a>)<br></div><div>Message-ID: <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:MwpcwmF--3-2@tutanota.com" target="_blank">MwpcwmF--3-2@tutanota.com</a>><br></div><div>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div><br></div><div>Polish community is preparing a map/service that is intended to help Ukrainian<br></div><div>refugees (100 000 refugees crossed border with Poland so far, millions are expected,<br></div><div>current reported rate is 47 500 people each day[1][2])<br></div><div><br></div><div>Site is for now just in the initial states of creation, soon background tiles<br></div><div>should be switched to prefer display of Ukrainian names if present.<br></div><div><br></div><div>So far only reception points are marked, there are plans for more.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Site is at<br></div><div><a href="https://dopomoha.pl/en/#map=7/50.538/24.055" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://dopomoha.pl/en/#map=7/50.538/24.055</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>How one may help<br></div><div><br></div><div>Mapping:<br></div><div>- mapping Eastern Poland (OSM quality is relatively good in Poland but even<br></div><div>roads are sometimes missing)<br></div><div>?? - remember to use <a href="http://Geoportal.gov.pl" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Geoportal.gov.pl</a> as the primary imagery and for aligning objects<br></div><div>- mapping name:uk where missing (though that may be better left for people<br></div><div>who know language)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Development:<br></div><div>- submit pull request to <a href="https://github.com/openstreetmap-polska/ua-2022-map" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/openstreetmap-polska/ua-2022-map</a><br></div><div>(consult first - via github issue or other channel mentioned below)<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Help welcome!<br></div><div><br></div><div>If you want to contact feel free to join (and use English there)<br></div><div><br></div><div>- <a href="https://discord.gg/HvQWsMeQzT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://discord.gg/HvQWsMeQzT</a> (Polish Discord, see channel #ukraina-2022<br></div><div>- <a href="https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=23" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=23</a> (Polish forum)<br></div><div>- <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:kontakt@siecaed.pl" target="_blank">kontakt@siecaed.pl</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>More ideas will likely appear soon. Sorry that things are a bit chaotic.<br></div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://tvn24.pl/polska/atak-rosji-na-ukraine-sytuacja-na-przejsciu-granicznym-w-medyce-mswia-100-tys-uchodzcow-z-ukrainy-przekroczylo-do-tej-pory-granice-z-polska-5614563" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tvn24.pl/polska/atak-rosji-na-ukraine-sytuacja-na-przejsciu-granicznym-w-medyce-mswia-100-tys-uchodzcow-z-ukrainy-przekroczylo-do-tej-pory-granice-z-polska-5614563</a><br></div><div>[2] <a href="https://twojeradio.fm/straz-graniczna-do-polski-z-ukrainy-w-piatek-wjechalo-ponad-47-tysiecy-osob.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://twojeradio.fm/straz-graniczna-do-polski-z-ukrainy-w-piatek-wjechalo-ponad-47-tysiecy-osob.html</a><br></div><div>?<br></div><div>(forwarding info from Polish OSM community)<br></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div> </body>
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