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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Well, the moderators
are not going to sit down and write a Law on Acceptable Behavior
for the OSM community, which is what you appear to be asking for
("Laws exist so that justice can be fair for everyone in a
pluralistic society"). The expectation is that members of the
community will be polite and respectful of each other, and will
avoid offensive behavior. <br>
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">As for cultural
differences, that is handled by the Stage 1 response, which is a
polite, private email to the presumed offender, asking politely
for moderation of the rhetoric. <br>
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Complaints do not have
to be public. They can be submitted privately to the moderators.
When I was on the OSMF Board, it received private complaints,
and sought to deal with them discreetly. There is thus no
privilege for the "outgoing or brave".</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Incidentally, I am no
longer Chairperson of the OSMF. I stepped down last December
after deciding not to run for re-election to the Board.
Guillaume Rischard now chairs the Board.</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">cheers,<br>
apm</font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/10/2022 1:39 PM, Joseph Eisenberg
wrote:<br>
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> <span style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Whether
this or that statement will deeply offend another
community member is something we shall have to wait and
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<div>It is not good policy to govern a community on a
case-by-case basis, when it includes more than one culture</div>
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<div>Laws exist so that justice can be fair for everyone in a
pluralistic society</div>
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<div>Traditional societies with a uniform culture, for example
a remote village in Papua, can function well without any
written law code, because the cultural conventions are
passed down by observation and word of mouth, and everyone
knows what is expected of them. </div>
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But as a multicultural, trans-national community, we need
clearer rules, if there are going to be consequences to
violations. What is considered offensive in Amsterdam, the
Netherlands is quite different than what is offensive in a
rural village in Indonesia<br>
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A standard of action of "was someone deeply offended?" will
privilege protecting those who are outgoing or brave enough to
complain publicly.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On the other hand, it could unfairly be
used against a contributor who unintentionally caused offense
due to cultural differences or misunderstandings. </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Fortunately, the actual Etiquette
Guidelines document seems to acknowledge these issues (see <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Etiquette/Etiquette_Guidelines#Expected_Behavior"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Etiquette/Etiquette_Guidelines#Expected_Behavior</a>)
- so I am surprised that the Chairperson of OSMF (Allan
Mustard) seems to have a different understanding. </div>
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<div>-- Joseph Eisenberg</div>
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