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The Wikidata links haven’t gone away; they’re in the OSM data items where they are easily machine readable and can be curated against accidental divergences between languages. The other description arguments could just as easily follow (there’s no problem with
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Marc_marc <marc_marc@mailo.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 30 September 2022 11:59<br>
<b>To:</b> talk <talk@openstreetmap.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?</font>
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<div class="PlainText">Hello,<br>
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a few months ago, the community unfortunately voted [|] to "remove <br>
alphanumeric code visible in infoboxes at OSM Wiki linking to Wikidata" <br>
because for some tags, the item described by the tag was not the same<br>
as the one described by the wikidata item (in my opinion it is better<br>
to only delete the erroneous links instead of hiding everything)<br>
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today I see that a bot is deleting the wikidata, which is not<br>
the same thing as "hide from the infobox"<br>
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therefore if I want to make an application that displays natural=tree <br>
genus species in the user's language, I don't have access to the <br>
translation base that is de facto wikidata (and I would have to do<br>
like many tools: ask people to waste their time to encode the same <br>
translation again)<br>
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so it's the previous vote to hide a valid arg to remove it ?<br>
do we really want the community to waste its time remaking<br>
a wikidata-osm out of ego not to use wikidata.org when<br>
it describes the same concept?<br>
is it useful ? what do we gain by breaking the link between<br>
natural=tree and |wikidata=Q10884 ?<br>
compare osm's translation list with wikidata<br>
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q4723">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q4723</a><br>
<a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10884">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10884</a><br>
of course for some, it's even worse, for ex genus=* 30 <> 125<br>
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q310">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q310</a><br>
<a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q34740">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q34740</a><br>
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it's already a sad waste to have to translate every tag<br>
for the wiki + iD + josm+ .... + ... + ... without this<br>
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<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/remove_link_to_Wikidata_from_infoboxes">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/remove_link_to_Wikidata_from_infoboxes</a><br>
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Regards,<br>
Marc<br>
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