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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Sep 30, 2022, 14:08 by frederik@remote.org:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>Hi,<br></div><div><br></div><div>On 30.09.22 13:36, Frederik Ramm wrote:<br></div><blockquote>You can't have people vote on one thing and then do something else.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It occurs to me that this is what usually happens in politics. Still, we should aim to be better ;)<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">And to be clear: my intention was NOT to mislead people and I am really sorry<br></div><div dir="auto">if I was insufficiently clear in any part.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Not entirely sure what should be done differently. Maybe initial <br></div><div dir="auto">mistake was not making clear that ceasing to display wikidata link<br></div><div dir="auto">makes this parameter defunct and that it should be removed?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It was titled "remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes" and had<br></div><div dir="auto">"this proposal will not result in a data loss, as everything in OSM Wiki<br></div><div dir="auto">was synchronized to data items" and <br></div><div dir="auto">"wikidata parameter in infoboxes on wiki pages would become inactive"<br></div><div dir="auto">and so on.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But now I see that for many people implication may be not obvious :(<br></div><div dir="auto">That it implies that this parameter would become removable as<br></div><div dir="auto">dead and inactive.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">That is quite sad as I put a lot of effort into attempt to make this<br></div><div dir="auto">proposal clear. And I see that it had a major failure. Sorry for that.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">To clarify situation:<br></div><div dir="auto">When proposal was made all data was synchronise with data items.<br></div><div dir="auto">Anyone using wikidata links for any purpose still have access to them<br></div><div dir="auto">and if this data was useful at all they can continue to use them.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But making second large scale edit to add back defunct parameter<br></div><div dir="auto">that is no longer present in the infobox does not seem to be a good idea.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Especially as this wiki bot edit followed stricter standards than actually stated <br></div><div dir="auto">as required.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And it is even more irritating as I am one of few people actually following <br></div><div dir="auto">rules for bot edits.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Basically all bot edits and imports operate under "hopefully noone will <br></div><div dir="auto">revert this, so lets ignore rules and just do it". Or at least some rules.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And I actually put quite a lot of effort into doing what is required by rules<br></div><div dir="auto">so it is a bit irritating to run into this.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">(see <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Automated_edits_log">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Automated_edits_log</a><br></div><div dir="auto">- and it is not like I made 1/3 of all automated edits in OSM!)<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And on Wiki many automated edits were running without even asking <br></div><div dir="auto">on Talk:Wiki<br></div> </body>
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