<div dir="auto">I think the issue is more fit for the purpose.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">For critical work the OSM database cannot be relied upon. We have too many inexperienced mappers who can inadvertantly corrupt the map. There are processes to allow an area to be watched so a mapper can double check any changes in a specific area. The map is vandalised from time to time. The DWG does a great job but the problem is it cannot be relied upon 100% of the time as errors will be present until they are removed.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Having said that Stats Canada is quite happy to use building data in Canada on the basis it is the best available.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So it's better than nowt. It's fairly easy to add Open Data to it either directly or download a sample and mix the open data in that way. I think some if the NGOs work like that.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The wording is probably to protect OSM from law suits, we don't guarantee the quality of the data will be good enough for your purposes.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You can run your own database by the way. Grab a chunk of the map and run your own updates into it. This has the advantage that you can use all the OSM tools and is reasonably well documented.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Going the Legal Working Group path can be lengthy. They are practically all volunteers and they have a back log.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So do your TRA (Threat Risk Analysis) and see what you think. Remember lawyers are paid to be cautious.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cheerio John</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 9, 2023, 19:43 rob potter <<a href="mailto:pots253@gmail.com">pots253@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I am representing the state transport department <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Department_of_Transport_and_Planning_(Victoria,_Australia)" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Department of Transport and Planning (Victoria, Australia) - OpenStreetMap Wiki</a> and we are looking to consume the OSM road & rail networks for our operations.</div><div><br></div><div><b>Lawyers have raised a concern about these conditions, as the road data use is supplied to our emergency services fire and ambulance. We have not started using the information but we are implementing a system of validation and change detection, then produce an authoritative version for other agency consumption.</b></div><div><i style="color:rgb(30,32,33);font-family:osmftext,sans-serif"><b><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:inherit"><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><u>Unlawful and other unauthorized uses</u></span><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> include</span></span><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:inherit"><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline"> a clause "</span><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Operate dangerous businesses such as emergency services or air traffic control, where the use or failure of the Services could lead to death, personal injury or significant property damage;" and "</span><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Store data a</span><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">vailable through th</span><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">e Services in order to evade these Terms (including aiding anyone else in doin</span></span><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">g so); or"</span></span></b></i><br></div><div><font size="2"><i><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline"><br></span></span></i></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Please any advice would be greatly appreciated, ultimately we will enhance the overall content of OSM in the Victoria, but really do not want to cause problems later.</span></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline"><br></span></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Thanks,</span></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline"><br></span></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="border:0px;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Rob</span></span></font></div></div></div></div>
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