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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Mar 24, 2023, 22:33 by facebook_140f8d4e-9d8f-4d51-a5a7-320f53afc591@vollbio.de:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><p>Hi<br></p><p>Thanks for the comprehensive explanation. Here some answers:<br></p><ol><li>This first part makes sense to me.<br></li></ol></blockquote><div dir="auto" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none; color: rgb(48, 48, 48); font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">Thanks!<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><ol start="2"><li>Regarding your questions to document previous values, I would
propose to use "material=..." as mentioned under: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface#See_also">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface#See_also</a><br></li></ol></blockquote><div style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none; color: rgb(48, 48, 48); font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;" dir="auto">which "previous values" you mean?</div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><ol start="3"><li>"tierra" and "terra" ... the answer is obvious: "ground".<br></li><li>Also, for other languages, which are not clear, I would use
the "material=..." key and just put "surface=unpaved", to be on
the safe side.<br></li></ol></blockquote><div style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none; color: rgb(48, 48, 48); font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;" dir="auto">If unclear, I will just not touch it (especially as some unclear may describe paved surface)</div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><ol start="5"><li>Btw. I saw some German word: holz=>wood,
schotter=>gravel, verdichtet=>paved (it means
"compacted"), Gras/Laub=>grass,
pflasterstein=>cobblestones<br></li></ol></blockquote><div style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none; color: rgb(48, 48, 48); font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;" dir="auto">Could surface=verdichtet be actually surface=compacted?<br></div><div style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none; color: rgb(48, 48, 48); font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;" dir="auto"><br></div><div style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none; color: rgb(48, 48, 48); font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;" dir="auto">Is surface=pflasterstein a surface=cobblestone (underdefined one) or<br></div><div style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none; color: rgb(48, 48, 48); font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;" dir="auto">can it be assumed to be in every single case surface=sett or surface=unhewn_cobblestone ?<br></div><div style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none; color: rgb(48, 48, 48); font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;" dir="auto"><br></div><div style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none; color: rgb(48, 48, 48); font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;" dir="auto">See <a style="box-sizing: border-box; color: inherit; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-user-drag: none;" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:surface%3Dcobblestone">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:surface%3Dcobblestone</a><br></div><div style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none; color: rgb(48, 48, 48); font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;" dir="auto"><br></div><div style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none; color: rgb(48, 48, 48); font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;" dir="auto">I added<br></div><div style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none; color: rgb(48, 48, 48); font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;" dir="auto"> # translating German<br></div><div dir="auto"> 'holz': 'wood',<br></div><div dir="auto"> 'schotter': 'gravel',<br></div><div dir="auto"> 'Gras_Laub': 'grass',<br></div><div dir="auto">to candidate list for the next one (I will also review is any of them typically wrong<br></div><div dir="auto">- using aerial images - and is connected to any obvious issues not already<br></div><div dir="auto">automatically detectable)<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><ol start="6"><li>Regarding regular reruns of this, I would put some quality
gates into that, like:<br></li><ul><li>Were previous automatic corrections reverted and why?<br></li><li>Does a certain type reoccur often and why?<br></li><li>Do new categories appear and should they become official?<br></li></ul></ol></blockquote><div style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none;" dir="auto">I inspect some sample of bot edits and before I run it I get info how many will be changed<br></div><div style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none;" dir="auto">- so in case of large volume of cases (re)appearing I would investigate what is going on.<br></div><div style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none;" dir="auto"><br></div><div style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none;" dir="auto">I am also monitoring PMs and changeset comments on bot account - and I think<br></div><div style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none;" dir="auto">that someone thinking that it made a bad edit would write.<br></div><div style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none;" dir="auto"><br></div><div style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none;" dir="auto">Does it seem enough for you? (I can also run this edit once and once enough new<br></div><div style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none;" dir="auto">or repeated cases gather then appear here again with similar listing)<br></div><div style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text !important; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-user-drag: none;" dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div> </body>
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