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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Apr 21, 2023, 11:18 by 61sundowner@gmail.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div><br></div><div>On 21/4/23 04:50, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote:<br></div><blockquote><div>bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)<br></div><div><br></div><div>For quite long time I am trying to use OSM-based products as Google<br></div><div>Maps replacement. One of major issues are POIs (in many apects). Small<br></div><div>part of that are POIs marked but in way that makes them unusuable<br></div><div>anyway.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>A rendering issue.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">Not only a rendering issue, when you search for tea shop and it was marked as<br></div><div dir="auto">shop=herbata ("herbata" is Polish for tea) then even a well written search tool<br></div><div dir="auto">will fail to reliably find it.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Also, rendering cannot be expected to shop=florist shop=flower shop=flowers<br></div><div dir="auto">shop=florist2 shop=floristt shop=floorist shop=kwiaty shop=blumen and all<br></div><div dir="auto">other possible variants (even if we do not care about feedback to mappers)<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><blockquote><div>shop = chandler → shop = ship_chandler<br></div><div>shop = chandlery → shop = ship_chandler<br></div><div>shop = chandlers → shop = ship_chandler<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>A 'chandler' is a person who posses a shop that is a 'chandlery'. Boats are smaller than ships and more numerous.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I would think 'shop=chandlery' is best as it applies to both boats and ships.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">Either way I will leave it out of the list if that is not an obvious change.<br></div><div dir="auto">(and I already removed this on)<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><blockquote><div>shop = collectibles → shop = collector<br></div></blockquote><div>No, shops these days do not sell people.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">note <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dcollector">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dcollector</a><br></div><div dir="auto">and anyway risk of confusion here that shop=collector sells people seems not very likely<br></div><div dir="auto">(and say <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dhairdresser">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dhairdresser</a> )<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I am not proposing here establishing shop=collector - for better or worse<br></div><div dir="auto">it is established already<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><blockquote><div>shop = unattended → shop = vacant<br></div><div>shop = for_rent → shop = vacant<br></div><div>shop = unused → shop = vacant<br></div><div>shop = vacancy → shop = vacant<br></div></blockquote><div>These could be tagged disused:shop=* and retain the past use.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">not really, as current tagging does not give info (and checking history does not<br></div><div dir="auto">give info whether past equipment/sign/anything is still there, and it is not<br></div><div dir="auto">important enough to open notes or bother people via changeset comments - <br></div><div dir="auto">and shop=vacant can be reliably handled as empty shop <br></div><div dir="auto">I could migrate to disused:shop=yes but in turn some people described disued:shop=<br></div><div dir="auto">as not fitting for shop space that was never used<br></div><div dir="auto">)<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><blockquote><div>shop = bazaar → shop = yes<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Humm bazaar = a market in a Middle Eastern or Asian country. These usually consist of a number of shops .. May be better mapped as amenity=marketplace?<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">I though so - but all I checked were about individual shops. And shop=yes will be <br></div><div dir="auto">flagged for resurvey anyway<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Can skip if it is in doubt<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><blockquote><div>shop = sport → shop = sports<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The secondary tag of 'sport=*' does not have the 's' .. this may lead to errors. I'd retain 'shop=sport'.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">note <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dsports">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dsports</a> - again, I am not<br></div><div dir="auto">proposing introducing new shop value<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><blockquote>shop = foods → shop = food<br></blockquote><div>Foods .. usually more than one.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">we also have established shop=food tag<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><blockquote>shop = paints → shop = paint<br></blockquote><div>Paints .. usually more than one.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dpaint">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dpaint</a> is well established,<br></div><div dir="auto">that is 14886 vs 10 uses right now<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">though if someone will convince OSM community to deprecate shop=paint and<br></div><div dir="auto">switch to shop=paints then situation would be different<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">but until it happens having shop=paints is just confusing (such as questions<br></div><div dir="auto">"this shop is tagged, why it is without icon?")<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><blockquote><div>shop = door → shop = doors<br></div><div>shop = health_foods → shop = health_food<br></div><div>shop = locksmiths → shop = locksmith<br></div><div>shop = bathroom_furnishings → shop = bathroom_furnishing<br></div><div><br></div><div>low use values based on review of other low use values with extra s,<br></div><div>this were not reviewed specifically<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Most of thefollowing .. I'd reatin the 's' as they would sell more than one kind.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">also when we have established s-less value?<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><blockquote><div>shop = farm_stand → shop = farm<br></div></blockquote><div>A 'stand' is a particular structure .. different from a retail building, so may require an additional tag 'building=stand' ???<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">I guess that someone can look anyway as shop=* not inside buildings...<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>Hope that helps.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">thanks for review!<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div> </body>
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