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<font size="4">I tend to use the 'comment' tag. I use it to pass
thoughts, ideas on to others who are mapping there. <br>
Both tags of 'note' and 'fixme' tend to attract people out to 'fix
things' rather than those with a real interest in the area. Hummm
.. having said that I do tend to 'fix things' using OSMInspector
so I cannot claim too high a moral ground. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/10/24 04:29, Andy Townsend wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:5eae24e3-3123-4db0-bdec-1d19b2fe0c97@gmail.com">On
27/10/2024 12:50, Andy Mabbett wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">The note has been closed again.
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Indeed it has, by someone not previously involved. I suspect that
this might be because this week's issue of WeeklyOSM
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://weeklyosm.eu/archives/17560">https://weeklyosm.eu/archives/17560</a> mentioned it (see also
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/weeklyosm-team-a-thread/1961">https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/weeklyosm-team-a-thread/1961</a>
for a more general link to that).
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I don't think that there is much more to add that has already been
said, especially Greg's "The two parties aren't really
communicating well" at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2024-October/088593.html">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2024-October/088593.html</a>
. You have explained more on this mailing list than on the note
itself why you think that the note should remain open; @Koreller
did much the same on Discord (where I said much the same to them
as other people have said to you on this list).
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Often, OSM notes can be left for local mappers to follow up. In
this case the note is in North Korea, so we have to assume that
that is not going to happen. Some people obsessively create notes
for "things that could perhaps be better mapped" and some
obsessively close notes as part of their workflow; neither
approach is helpful if taken to the extreme. In this case North
Korea has very few open notes:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/192734#map=8/39.571/126.520&layers=HN">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/192734#map=8/39.571/126.520&layers=HN</a>
so I suspect that someone in the second category is perhaps active
there.
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Given the lack of local mappers I'd actually suggest that trying
to communicate by OSM notes isn't a great idea here*. Instead I'd
suggest that everyone uses a forum thread, perhaps continuing
either
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/ordered-and-disordered-cemeteries-in-north-korea-mapping-them-to-be-able-to-distinguish-them/102074">https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/ordered-and-disordered-cemeteries-in-north-korea-mapping-them-to-be-able-to-distinguish-them/102074</a>
or
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/your-views-on-my-contribution-guide-on-north-korea/94109">https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/your-views-on-my-contribution-guide-on-north-korea/94109</a>
- both of which seem to be exactly on topic and already involve
the person who closed the note in the first place.
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There, I'd suggest talking through what information you all have
and what sources are available for use within OSM, and trying to
discuss whether there might be any others in the latter category
that might be used to help resolve things. A note that says "we
know that this is incomplete but don't have information available
to complete it" isn't actionable.
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Best Regards,
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Yet another Andy
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* I can somewhat understand the wish for better notes
functionality mentioned earlier in the thread, but that won't help
if two people basically don't want to talk to each other.
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