[Accessibility] Confused about the whole blind osm process and things

[Jerry Matheny]

Thanks for getting back to me.

I am currently using the Talks screen reader on the Nokia N82 cell
phone. I would like to switch to a Windows Mobile phone at some point,
but not sure if there's much for the Open Street Map project on that
platform, at least as for as accessability goes. But for now, I'm
using Symbian. Oh, and I have the I-Blue 737 A+ gps, which seems
pretty good as far as I can tell.

I live in Salt Lake City, Utah in the USA. My zipcode here is 84101,
if that helps. Let's see. I think there are some things around here on
the map, that I was able to determine by the Loadstone conversion
tools, but there seemed to be a lot of duplicates, and it didn't seem
good enough to really tell where I was. I kept having to load the
database from the Point Share Exchange site on the Loadstone page, and
the problem with those is the addresses are entered wrong, and they
don't have spacific points of interest, like grocery stores and
schools and things. So, yeah. Whatever I can do to help I will. Could
you give me an example of something I can do? Let's say I want to be
able to assist in getting a better representation of what's around me?
And be able to have it added to the map. I make a empty Loadstone
database file, and start my gps up and I start logging? then do I just
put in Loadstone points of interest that I find of importance? I live
on a street called West Temple. So, I just wonder how best to do this,
if you could help me walk through an example?


Thanks in advance,

Jerry


On 2/16/10, Lulu-Ann at gmx.de <Lulu-Ann at gmx.de> wrote:
> Hello Jerry!
>
> I think your question is placed here very well.
>
> Jerry, you wrote:
>> I am blind, and I do have a Nokia N82, and I do have the
>> latest Loadstone gps program.
>
> That's a good start.
> Just because I'm curious: Which screenreader do you use?
>
>> I understand there's certain keywords
>> that should be used for points of interest and things, but not sure
>> how best to do it.
>
> At the moment there is no description available how to collect POIs with
> loadstone GPS and transfer them to OpenStreetMap database.
> Loadstone writes a "database" file in text format, which surely can be
> converted to OSM file format if exact naming of POIs is made sure.
>
> But this naming is not invented yet, and even if it was, you could not
> simply upload the POIs, because maybe they are already in the map and then
> you have double entries.
>
> We are working on a program called Lorodux (formerly Via-Dux, it was renamed
> because we don't want a name to similar to a registrated trademark). This
> software shall be able to tell you if a POI is there and let you change the
> position if unaccurate or let you add it if not in the map already.
>
>> And not sure I understand why doing the gps track
>> nmei log thing is needed. Is that to have the visual representation of
>> the streets? Let's say, for example, I go to a grocery store, and I
>> want it to be available for others on open streetmap. What should I do
>> in that case?
>
> The GPS track is needed to add missing streets to OSM.
> When you are using Loadstone GPS with the OpenStreetMap converter, you have
> imported street crossing information. If you encounter a street with
> crossings that are not in the imported data, probably one or all streets at
> that crossing are missing in OSM.
> The OpenStreetMap converter(s) can be found on the loadstone homepage
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com
>
> If you want to help to add a missing street, go there, turn the GPS logging
> on, walk up the street on one side and down on the other. This is needed not
> only for the visual representable information, but also for the chain of
> coordinates.
> Other than loadstone, future tools will also be able to guide you around
> curves, not only from crossing to crossing.
> If the street is connected to others, walk some meters into all connected
> streets so the seeing kartographer knows there is a connection.
>
> More about how to choose keywords and how to upload the track is written on
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/For_the_blind#I_am_blind_-_How_can_I_help_.3F__-_Project_blindOSM
>
> If you get stuck, please ask again.
>
>> If someone could please help me make this easier to
>> understand the actual process, it would be much appreciated.
>
> You are very welcome!
>
> Will you tell us/me where you live?
> I could have a glance at the map and tell you how complete it is in your
> area.
>
> Maybe the two other blind mappers from India an Finland have more hints for
> you.
>
> Best Regards
> Lulu-Ann
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