From golddy at gmail.com  Mon Aug 15 19:29:31 2011
From: golddy at gmail.com (Aurel 4)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:29:31 +0300
Subject: [Accessibility] welcome everyone
Message-ID: <099C8FEB86554DCC9CC63DFB4CB88DAD@TECRA>

Good evening.
first I apologize for that speak very bad English.
II in all I wonder if anyone knows an application that convert maps to OSM 
in LMX ie nokia maps.

Thanks. 
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From Lulu-Ann at gmx.de  Tue Aug 16 09:16:16 2011
From: Lulu-Ann at gmx.de (Lulu-Ann at gmx.de)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:16:16 +0200
Subject: [Accessibility] OSM to Nokia Maps
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Hello Aurel,

I don't know a converter for OSM to the Nokia Maps format.
Why do you want to convert them?
Is there anything you can not do on your Nokia with OSM maps using a free OSM application?
If so, what?

Cheers
Lulu-Ann



-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:29:31 +0300
> Von: "Aurel 4" <golddy at gmail.com>
> An: accessibility at openstreetmap.org
> Betreff: [Accessibility] welcome everyone

> Good evening.
> first I apologize for that speak very bad English.
> II in all I wonder if anyone knows an application that convert maps to OSM
> in LMX ie nokia maps.
> 
> Thanks. 

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From golddy at gmail.com  Tue Aug 16 10:35:38 2011
From: golddy at gmail.com (Aurel 4)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:35:38 +0300
Subject: [Accessibility] OSM to Nokia Maps
In-Reply-To: <20110816081616.296780@gmx.net>
References: <099C8FEB86554DCC9CC63DFB4CB88DAD@TECRA>
	<20110816081616.296780@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <A02DEA0CD4CA4F68992898F6360E32BA@TECRA>

thanks for your answer!

I'm a blind person and I use regulary <a 
href="http://www.loadstone-gps.com/" target="_blank">Loadstone</a> as GPS 
aplication on my Nokia, and many others as well.
Loadstone is an accesible software for our phone screen readers. Loadstone 
use Open street maps, but it's not able to create a ruth automaticaly. The 
other hand, we can use Nokia maps for that.
Nokia maps haven't so good maps for romania, unfortunately. For that reason 
I ask you if is possible to convert OSM maps to nokia maps )lmx).
thanks.

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From: <Lulu-Ann at gmx.de>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 11:16 AM
To: "Accessibility" <accessibility at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Accessibility] OSM to Nokia Maps

> Hello Aurel,
>
> I don't know a converter for OSM to the Nokia Maps format.
> Why do you want to convert them?
> Is there anything you can not do on your Nokia with OSM maps using a free 
> OSM application?
> If so, what?
>
> Cheers
> Lulu-Ann
>
>
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> Datum: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:29:31 +0300
>> Von: "Aurel 4" <golddy at gmail.com>
>> An: accessibility at openstreetmap.org
>> Betreff: [Accessibility] welcome everyone
>
>> Good evening.
>> first I apologize for that speak very bad English.
>> II in all I wonder if anyone knows an application that convert maps to 
>> OSM
>> in LMX ie nokia maps.
>>
>> Thanks.
>
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From Lulu-Ann at gmx.de  Tue Aug 16 12:15:34 2011
From: Lulu-Ann at gmx.de (Lulu-Ann at gmx.de)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:15:34 +0200
Subject: [Accessibility] OSM to Nokia Maps
In-Reply-To: <A02DEA0CD4CA4F68992898F6360E32BA@TECRA>
References: <099C8FEB86554DCC9CC63DFB4CB88DAD@TECRA>
	<20110816081616.296780@gmx.net>
	<A02DEA0CD4CA4F68992898F6360E32BA@TECRA>
Message-ID: <20110816111534.296740@gmx.net>

Hello Aurel!
 
> I'm a blind person and I use regulary <a 
> href="http://www.loadstone-gps.com/" target="_blank">Loadstone</a> as GPS 
> aplication on my Nokia, and many others as well.

I guess you are using Nuance Talks or Mobile Speak on your Nokia,
that makes me assume you have a Symbian OS running.

You might want to have a look on this OpenStreetMap Wiki page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Symbian

There is a list of all known applications that use Symbian OS and OpenStreetMap.
There is no application in the list though, that is testes with screenreader except Loadstone.

Also Nokio has a nice implementation of JavaME, so you might want to try one of the JavaME applications for OpenStreetMap:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Software/J2ME

LoroDux will work on your Nokia with JavaME, but Loadstone offers you much more functionality.

There is no other application than LoroDux tested with a screenreader, but you might want to give a try to GPSmid. I can forward your test report to the developers.

If you have an iPhone aswell, there are more tested applications.

Best regards
Lulu-Ann

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From golddy at gmail.com  Tue Aug 16 15:17:46 2011
From: golddy at gmail.com (Aurel 4)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:17:46 +0300
Subject: [Accessibility] OSM to Nokia Maps
In-Reply-To: <20110816111534.296740@gmx.net>
References: <099C8FEB86554DCC9CC63DFB4CB88DAD@TECRA><20110816081616.296780@gmx.net><A02DEA0CD4CA4F68992898F6360E32BA@TECRA>
	<20110816111534.296740@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <1B4958D0CDB84D70BDC0FE6EE5FFAD84@TECRA>

Hello everyone!
yes, I use a screen-reader (talks) on symbian 9.3 and as far as I know only 
Loadstone was completly accesible until not too long ago.
now gps from nokia is accesible with Nuance talks 5.2 but the maps that 
nokia uses ar poor.
That I asked if OSM can be fonverted to nokia format (lmx).
thanks

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From: <Lulu-Ann at gmx.de>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:15 PM
To: "Accessibility" <accessibility at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Accessibility] OSM to Nokia Maps

> Hello Aurel!
>
>> I'm a blind person and I use regulary <a
>> href="http://www.loadstone-gps.com/" target="_blank">Loadstone</a> as GPS
>> aplication on my Nokia, and many others as well.
>
> I guess you are using Nuance Talks or Mobile Speak on your Nokia,
> that makes me assume you have a Symbian OS running.
>
> You might want to have a look on this OpenStreetMap Wiki page:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Symbian
>
> There is a list of all known applications that use Symbian OS and 
> OpenStreetMap.
> There is no application in the list though, that is testes with 
> screenreader except Loadstone.
>
> Also Nokio has a nice implementation of JavaME, so you might want to try 
> one of the JavaME applications for OpenStreetMap:
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Software/J2ME
>
> LoroDux will work on your Nokia with JavaME, but Loadstone offers you much 
> more functionality.
>
> There is no other application than LoroDux tested with a screenreader, but 
> you might want to give a try to GPSmid. I can forward your test report to 
> the developers.
>
> If you have an iPhone aswell, there are more tested applications.
>
> Best regards
> Lulu-Ann
>
> -- 
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From Lulu-Ann at gmx.de  Tue Aug 16 16:02:20 2011
From: Lulu-Ann at gmx.de (Lulu-Ann at gmx.de)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:02:20 +0200
Subject: [Accessibility] OSM to Nokia Maps
In-Reply-To: <1B4958D0CDB84D70BDC0FE6EE5FFAD84@TECRA>
References: <099C8FEB86554DCC9CC63DFB4CB88DAD@TECRA><20110816081616.296780@gmx.net><A02DEA0CD4CA4F68992898F6360E32BA@TECRA>
	<20110816111534.296740@gmx.net>
	<1B4958D0CDB84D70BDC0FE6EE5FFAD84@TECRA>
Message-ID: <20110816150220.296750@gmx.net>

Hello Aurel again.

> That I asked if OSM can be converted to nokia format (lmx).

No, not yet. But it should be possible.

OpenStreetMap uses an open data format. Nokia maps format is not open.
You will hardly find someone who will support this open to closed data format concept.
The only closed format that OSM data is converted to as far as I know is to Garmin format, which is done because Garmin Hardware has special advantages for a huge amount of users (you can throw it in the mud).

I am sorry I bothered you with cool free open source alternatives that you can influence. Hope anybody else was interested.

If you want to stick to Nokia Maps, why don't you complain about their maps to their email address?

You see, making a routing software is rather easy and quick compared to collecting map data for the whole world.
Maybe you find more compagnions if you find another software, than to find another good and free map data source.

If you want to convert OSM to LMX yourself you might want to use XSLTPROT and this LMX example to start with (only for POIs):
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/LMX

I have no idea though how to transfer selfmade LMX files to a Nokia Phone, to which folder.

Best Regards
Lulu-Ann


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From arimo at iki.fi  Sun Aug 28 21:21:48 2011
From: arimo at iki.fi (Ari Moisio)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 23:21:48 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [Accessibility] Free  OSM-based routers
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1108282316330.14935@tykki>

Hi

Are there any suggestions for online route generator that can be used by 
command line? I looked for the OSM wiki but all alternatives seems to 
offer only a a nice map:-(

I would need a route generator that will get start  and end coordinates, 
possible vehicle information and return the route for example as a .gpx 
file. Nothing fancy and nothing eye-candy:-)



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From Lulu-Ann at gmx.de  Mon Aug 29 13:01:42 2011
From: Lulu-Ann at gmx.de (Lulu-Ann at gmx.de)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:01:42 +0200
Subject: [Accessibility] Free  OSM-based routers (Ari Moisio)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.25.1314615614.30585.accessibility@openstreetmap.org>
References: <mailman.25.1314615614.30585.accessibility@openstreetmap.org>
Message-ID: <20110829120142.228520@gmx.net>

Hi everybody

Ari asked:
> Are there any suggestions for online route generator that can be used by 
> command line? I looked for the OSM wiki but all alternatives seems to 
> offer only a a nice map:-(
> 
> I would need a route generator that will get start  and end coordinates, 
> possible vehicle information and return the route for example as a .gpx 
> file. Nothing fancy and nothing eye-candy:-)

Hi Ari,

I don't know any commant line interface solutions.

Here are two prototypes in German of online text interfaces:

Amauromap:
No Routing, but description of streets (OSM based)
http://www.amauro.map.at/

"Accessible Routing"
With routing in German, also OSM based
http://koenigstuhl.geog.uni-heidelberg.de/accessible_routing/

By the way, you could have found both links on our OpenStreetMap Wiki page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/For_the_blind

Sorry there is nothing in English yet.

I am working on a project for fully accessible routing in English and German (and more, but there is nothing to show yet but the requirements and the project plan. It will be called "Look and listen map".

If you don't want a text result but a gps track as a result, you might want to do some research on routing solutions with maps, where a line is drawn on the map.
Maybe you can grab the track (.gpx or .klm) from the website? Or have you tried that in google maps?

I will keep your requirement to download a gpx routing file in mind for later versions of "look and listen map".

Ari, are you still uploading tracks to OSM?
Did that work fine?

Best regards
Lulu-Ann





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From barbeau at cutr.usf.edu  Mon Aug 29 15:35:00 2011
From: barbeau at cutr.usf.edu (Barbeau, Sean)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:35:00 -0400
Subject: [Accessibility] Free  OSM-based routers (Ari Moisio)
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Ari,
OpenTripPlanner (http://opentripplanner.org/) open-source project should be able to help you out for the hard parts, although it will require some modification to get exactly what you want.  You'll need to set up a server instance for the area you're interested in, and include a GTFS transit dataset for the area (since OSM data is pulled for the area surrounding the GTFS data.  OTP has a web-accessible API component (http://www.opentripplanner.org/apidoc/), and you could access that from your own simple command-line software client and transform that output into GPX.

More details on setting up your own OTP instance are here:
https://github.com/openplans/OpenTripPlanner/wiki/Install

Sean

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Hi

Are there any suggestions for online route generator that can be used by 
command line? I looked for the OSM wiki but all alternatives seems to 
offer only a a nice map:-(

I would need a route generator that will get start  and end coordinates, 
possible vehicle information and return the route for example as a .gpx 
file. Nothing fancy and nothing eye-candy:-)



-- 
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hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net B784D020
0C1F 6A76 DC9D DD58 3383 8B5D 0E76 9600  B784 D02



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