[Accessibility] questions about tagging for disability/accessibility mapping

[Holger Dieterich]

Hi Gabor,

Holger here, I'm the co-founder of http://wheelmap.org and also started the
proposal for the tag "toilets:wheelchair" on OpenStreetMap. It was my first
proposal and as I understood the community etiquette you are supposed to go
through the process before introducing new tags:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process

It was a helpful process to get feedback from the whole community about
this. Indeed I initially proposed "wheelchair:toilets" but learned that
"toilets:wheelchair" is better. That's what we use in our wheelmap web app
http://wheelmap.org and in the next month we release new versions of our
mobile apps which include the toilet question as well.

Here is the description of the approved tag:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:toilets:wheelchair

I documented the discussion during the proposal phase here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/toilets:wheelchair


Result: Today there are 13.300 uses of the official tag but only 462 of the
other version.
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=toilets%3Awheelchair
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=wheelchair:toilets

I don't know about the other tags you mentioned such as step-height or
entrance-width but suggest you search for them in the wiki and if you do
not find anything that fits your use case, start a proposal as as well!

Hope that answers your questions. Great to see accessibility aspects are
used in more projects!

Holger


--
Holger Dieterich
Chairman, SOZIALHELDEN e.V.


2015-11-01 19:34 GMT+01:00 Vid Gabor <vidgabor at gmail.com>:

> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 12:20 PM, assistieren at gmx.de <assistieren at gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Gabor Vid,
>>
>> > toilets:wheelchair and wheelchair:toilets
>>
>> I GUESS this means the wheelchair-accessibility of toilets (that can be
>> used by anyone) versus the accessibility of additional, separated
>> toilets for wheelchair users only. In praxi: In our town public toilets
>> for women are often wheelchair-accessible while those for men are not.
>> So wheelchair users of any gender or sex have to use the
>> "women-only-toilets". This can be quite an issue. Somewhere else you
>> might have three types of toilets: women and men, which are not
>> wheelchair-accessible, and wheelchair-accessible, which should be used
>> by wheelchair-users only. (A question of hygiene, as well, for example
>> for people who have to catheterize themselves or need this room for
>> other medical procedures).
>>
>
> OK. We understand this. But We don't know which tag is preffered for eg.
> route planners, or wheelmap or other applications for disabled peoples.
> But, this is an new view point for us.
>
>
>>
>> > entrance:width and wheelchair:entrance_width
>>
>> Quite often wheelchair users cannot use the main entrance and so there
>> is often a special entrance for wheelchair users. The properties of this
>> special entrance MIGHT be meant here.
>>
>
> OK.
>
>
>> >
>> >
>> > wheelchair:entrance_door (manual or automatic) and door (manual or
>> > automatic) and automatic_door (yes or no)
>> >
>> >
>> > wheelchair:step_height (563 times) or step.height (748 times) or
>> > step:height (368 times)
>>
>> With those I am not sure as well, but I personal often have the problem,
>> that we cannot pass "steps" that "walkers" don't even realize as steps.
>> For example the 3cm between board and street. So this might be a
>> question of perspective as well. For walkers this is irrelevant to even
>> talk about a step, for us it is a barrier we cannot pass.
>>
>
> OK.
>
>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Elke
>>
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