[OSM-dev] JOSM: Several tags with same key

[Marcus Wolschon]

On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Matt Amos <zerebubuth at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Stefan de Konink <stefan at konink.de> wrote:
>> Eddy Petrișor wrote:
>>> Stefan de Konink a scris:
>>>> Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>>>>> Of course this would be a lot of work and discussion in the community,
>>>>> but I think it's still not too late to do it, and it would help a lot
>>>>> to bring more structure and logics in the tagging-scheme.
>
> more structure in the tagging scheme might stifle innovation and the
> ability of non-technical people to extend the taggable features. i
> think its better to describe the tags which are actually in use,
> rather than proscribe the tags which are allowed.
>
>>>> Still will probably still not render the right icons (aligned) at the
>>>> same place. Maybe the hole discussion amenity discussion could be solved
>>>> by going boolean; amenity:hotel = true etc.
>>>
>>> This sounds like a good idea until you realise people could tag
>>> amenity:hotel = no
>>
>> highway = no is possible too ;)
>
> and highway=hotel, but this is a property of any non-fixed ontology. :-)
>
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
> <dieterdreist at gmail.com> wrote:
>> gastronomy for all kind of beergardens, restaurants, cafes, bars,
>> fast_food and the like
>
> how do i tag my cafe-restaurant or beergarden with a burger bar? it
> has just the same problems.
>
> maybe what we need is an "amenities" tag specifically for multiple
> co-located amenities?

I strongly disagree.
That is even harder to parse then the ";".

Stefan:
I really do like the "amenity:bar"="yes" -aproach.
The current namespace of "amenity" is preserved,
an automatic adding of the new name to every place
with the old one is possible (to have a transition-period)
and it does solve the problem.


Matt:
> i think its better to describe the tags which are actually in use,
> rather than proscribe the tags which are allowed.

There is a problem with what people are tagging and there
needs to be a change to this tag to solve it.
This calls for a proposal on the "Key:amenity" -page with
a voting announced on talk.
As the issue affects so many there will be a few people
needed to play moderator on the Talk-page. Else this may
end like the "license"-discussion on the talk-list. (Hearing
the same thing repeatet over and over again without getting
anywhere until the threads died.)

Marcus