[OSM-dev] HALP! transiki needs YOU!

[Stefan de Konink]

On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Mike Dupont wrote:

> Ok Stefan, I am sorry that I have not read about all these things you
> guys have been doing.
> please tell me, how do you get all this data? Is there a way to
> extract all the transit data from osm in an easy way? that would be a
> good test for transiki to import this.

Most of our data goes into OpenStreetMap and does not come from 
OpenStreetMap. OpenStreetMap is primary used for geo-semantical stuff 
recovery.

In The Netherlands, by law, any transit provider has to offer their data 
to any national transit routing provider. Inventive as we are the 
government even defined a standard for that called 'BISON' they are 
focussing now on the european variant. In every respect both are bloated 
and the Dutch one is plain ugly. But like OSM, it works.

Level 1 is basically the static and positional data. The aditional levels 
include updates and realtime information exchange.


All this was done prior to the deployment of the Dutch National Databank 
for Public Transport data. Our insentive is basically to help define, and 
implement a reference infrastructure for this 'hub'. This reference might 
become the actual thing.


Train information is a sperate issue, currently there is a realtime system 
that manages that located at the governmental company that manages the 
complete traininfrastructure (opposed to the companies that drive the 
trains on them). The idea is to have their system as client to ours, and 
inject the data that can be subscribed to.

Because our system is primary targeted to The Netherlands and to data 
exchange, opposed to harvesting as much as you can eat, the documents are 
in dutch, but easy to translate. I wouldn't mind to send in a lot of 
Dutch content to your project. But please understand that timetables is 
something that is in the process of being phased out anyway... and routes 
are basically 'trivial' to get.


Stefan