[OSM-dev] API/XAPI caching proxy server

[Philipp Borgers]

Am Mittwoch, den 15.12.2010, 20:10 +0100 schrieb Frederik Ramm:
> Hi,
> 
> On 12/15/10 19:54, Wyo wrote:
> > Just tell me, how many people, who don't get paid for the work, have set
> > up their own XAPI server? A handful or a dozens, wordwide? Sorry forgive
> > me my harsh words, yet the current procedure to set up an XAPI server is
> > useless. For most interested people this is simply out of reach.
> 
> There are many things I am interested in but which are out of reach for 
> me. I guess I'll either have to work on bringing them within reach, or 
> I'll have to live with them being out of reach.

You are totally right about this.
> 
> Sure it's a nice thing to be able to download a data set of all pizza 
> joints in Spain with one simple command, but time and money has to be 
> invested to make it possible - money to buy servers, time to install and 
> maintain servers, time to write and maintain the software.
> 
> If I were an OSM admin, and I'm not, I'd divert resources away from 
> non-essential services like that and into more power for people actually 
> editing our data any time.
> 
Sorry I don't agree that xapi is a non-essential service. It's one of
the easiest ways to get osm data and we should provide easy access to
our data in as many ways as possible. I general it I think osm should
provide stronger infrastructure around all data available. This concerns
a special tiles, database, search (nominatim), routing. We have enough
resources. Manpower as well as money. We should invest more in our
infrastructure.

> If there are so many people who would like to have a well-working XAPI 
> server or similar, let them get together, find a sponsor (that may also 
> be some university that allows the group to use a server there), write 
> the required software and just do it. They don't need support from OSM, 
> OSMF, OSM Admins or anyone to get it done.
> 

I'm part of a student group. We try to establish our own osm
infrastructure and would like to integrate into the greater osm
infrastructure. So somehow we need support from OSMF, OSM-Admins as well
as theosm-community.

We are going to setup one tile cache and a database mirror. We would
like to "rewrite" search functionality and perhaps xapi ;) At the moment
we are writing some javascript/ajax/frontend-foo and analyse the logs of
osm tile servers and generating heatsmaps of http access. We are going
to simulate a tile-cache setup with several caches in the future.

> If this hasn't happened until now, then that's a clear sign that there 
> is not enough interest or not enough willingness to invest time and 
> money in this.

Our problem is money which osm could provide.

> Sitting there any saying "I think OSM should make my life easier" isn't 
> going to get anything accomplished.
> 

Osm makes life complicated :)

best regards
philipp

> Bye
> Frederik
> 
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