[OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] GSoC'10 (Graham Jones)

Tue Mar 16 09:18:13 GMT 2010

Thanks for mentioning it! Though I think I still want to post here my
proposal like Steve did to receive some feedback. This is the first time I
post here on the mailing list so, hi everyone! I'm Waldemar Quevedo from
Guadalajara, Mexico. I look forward to participate on this year's GSoC with
OSM.

Waldemar

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> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:28:45 +0000
> From: Graham Jones <grahamjones139 at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] GSoC'10
> To: steve brown <steve at evolvedlight.co.uk>
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> Steve,
> Thank you for putting together such a detailed proposal so early in the
> process.   Please do add a summary of the proposal to the wiki, as there is
> only a very small section on potential mobile application development in
> it.
>
> For yours, and other potential students' benefit, please note that the
> actual application process (which does need the level of detail you include
> here!) is via the Google Summer of Code web site (once the application
> period opens on 29 March) - you do not apply directly to the organisation -
> Just to make sure you know!
>
> There has been some discussion about android mapping tools on the OSM talk
> mailing list over the last month or so - it could be worth checking through
> the archives to see if you have picked up issues raised there.
>
> Regards
>
>
> Graham.
>
> On 16 March 2010 01:42, steve brown <steve at evolvedlight.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Hey
> >
> > As promised, here is my proposal:
> >
> > Name: Stephen Brown
> > Emails: steve at evolvedlight.co.uk, s.brown.11 at warwick.ac.uk
> > Websites/blog/OSM user page:
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/evolvedlight
> >
> >
> > List of Languages known(please rate strength in the scale of 10):
> > Rails 7/10, worked for two summers at a housing management solutions
> > company that was rebuilding their flagship application in Rails. Personal
> > projects such as youthweekends.com also use ruby on rails.
> > Java 9/10, uni course specialises in Java, 3rd year project in java,
> > developer for OpenSatNav, java again.
> > C#: 6/10 (lack of much .Net experience), Second year project in C#, as
> well
> > as personal interest. Submitted small patches to Tasque, in Mono .Net
> > PHP, 6/10, used it for some websites a while ago. Submitted a small patch
> > to Moodle a year ago. A bit rusty now.
> > Javascript: 7/10, used for most websites I've worked on. I'm familiar
> with
> > jQuery and scriptaculous.
> > C, C++ both around 5/10. A little experience, but nothing special
> >
> > OSM Project Proposal and Schedule:
> > My proposal comes in the form of several medium size enhancements to
> > OpenSatNav. These will take OpenSatNav from a semi-useful tool to a
> solution
> > not far from commercial equivalents. I want to work on:
> > Much more reliable trace recording tools, including voice and picture
> > notes. This will take about a week, as much of the work is already done
> by
> > osmtracker and opensatnav.
> > Add in support for alternative online routers other than yournavigation.
> > This will take less than a week, and will allow for the next point:
> > Turn-by-turn driving directions. This is the larger task, and will bring
> it
> > much closer to the standard set by AndNav and other satnav products. This
> > will include text to speech, using the standard android libraries if
> using
> > Android 2.0+, or the TTS download from the marketplace. I estimate that
> this
> > will take 3 weeks for the basic visual view, and algorithms to detect
> moving
> > off route and moving past a step in the journey, and another 2 weeks to
> get
> > the TTS implemented, including intelligent TTS when there are several
> > instructions close together in a route.
> > POI search around a place (choose a destination, then search for POIs
> near
> > it such as pubs or atms, using the Nominatum geocoder). This will take
> about
> > a week.
> > Finally, there are two features that will be actually innovative:
> > A widget view, so that someone can leave the application closed, but
> still
> > see driving directions in a 2x2 android widget, and thus change music or
> > other tasks without loosing view of the driving directions. This will
> take
> > another week.
> > Driving directions to the status bar when the application is minimised:
> > driving directions will be posted as notifications, so even if someone is
> in
> > a call, they will still be able to see where to go. This will take about
> a
> > week (could be done much more quickly, but will take a week to get
> perfect)
> > These together form my proposal, and should approximately fit the length
> of
> > the summer of code coding period.
> >
> > A couple of people have mentioned to me the strain on battery life when
> > using OpenSatNav. This is something I will continue to work on outside of
> > the GSoC proposal, as it is a more ongoing effort than a verifiable
> project,
> > and is something I'm going to look at before this summer. Other
> suggestions
> > will of course be welcomed.
> >
> > Currently involved in:
> > I'm an Android developer by hobby and a developer for OpenSatNav (not
> quite
> > yet released, but many people are using the development releases we
> > publish). I have been mostly working on the trace recording tools, which
> > then can upload directly to OSM without plugging the phone in anywhere. I
> > gain a great deal of satisfaction when I see people actually using
> something
> > I have worked upon, so you can be sure that if I am accepted for GSoC
> 2010
> > that I won't just complete the summer and drop something into SVN.
> >
> > My 3rd year project is an Augmented Reality Satnav that uses OSM (and the
> > freemap api tile server currently) and that runs on Android. It's not
> quite
> > finished yet, but hopefully will be integrated into OpenSatNav.
> >
> > I'm also a OpenSatNav data contributor, and have worked on some rivers,
> > paths near rivers, Wokingham (a town in Berkshire), Warwick University,
> and
> > Leamington Spa (a town in Warwickshire)
> >
> > Handling situations:
> > I work well when self-governed by defined deliverables and targets, and
> > when I think something is going to be used by other people. The project
> > manager for OpenSatNav is another potential mentor - while unable to code
> > himself, puts a good deal of work into project co-ordination.
> > Through my experience of working on other projects I know how to solve
> > problems myself, and know how to look things up to expand my knowledge.
> >
> > Hobbies/Interests:
> > I'm a keen whitewater kayaker and do alot of that in the colder months
> (in
> > summer the UK dries up and kayaking season stops). I'm the secretary of
> the
> > canoe club at the university, and also help manage the website. OSM is
> > another interest - I prefer outdoor mapping using OpenSatNav but have
> > dabbled a bit with armchair mapping in the snowy months we've had this
> year.
> > I'm also into climbing, swimming and cycling, and use these to keep
> myself
> > fit.
> >
> > I enjoy contributing to open source projects and have done a little for
> > quite a few, spanning a few languages. I'm also a Christadelphian, so am
> > involved in Church activities from time to time.
> >
> > Altogether, I hope my proposal shows my huge interest in OpenStreetMap.
> > OpenSatNav has been something I've put a good deal of work into and I
> would
> > love to be able to continue that work full-time this summer. If you do
> > accept my proposal, you can be assured some very visible results at the
> end
> > of the summer!
> >
> > I'm also putting this on the GSoC/2010 wiki, and very much welcome
> > comments, requests or critism.
> >
> > Steve Brown
> >
> > On 13 March 2010 20:50, Graham Jones <grahamjones139 at googlemail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Steve,
> >> I look forward to seeing your proposal.  Especially if it is to do with
> >> opensatnav - I am using that at the moment!
> >> Seems to eat batteries if you do GPS trace logging, which is a bit of a
> >> surprise - I suspect it must not be sleeping very much in that loop, but
> >> haven't checked!
> >>
> >> Graham.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12 March 2010 01:23, steve brown <steve at evolvedlight.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to say a quick hello! I've been involved with OSM as a data
> >>> contributor for a while (about a year and a half) and a developer for
> an
> >>> Android OSM SatNav for half a year or so.
> >>>  With my background and experience (and love) for OSM I'm hoping to
> >>> participate this year in google summer of code, hopefully working on
> further
> >>> features and versions of the Android application (opensatnav.org).
> I've
> >>> seen that last year a participant developed an android client, but it
> seems
> >>> to have stagnated in the SVN - I'm quite against just leaving things
> like
> >>> that so whatever I do, you can be sure that it'll go live and keep
> being
> >>> worked upon. My 3rd year project at Warwick University is also further
> >>> enhancements to OpenSatNav, so I'm going to be contributing GSOC or
> not, but
> >>> if I do get on the programme I will have plenty more time to spend even
> more
> >>> good stuff.
> >>>
> >>> Anyway, I'll post my proposal up tomorrow after I've worked on it a
> >>> little more. I've been watching the dev mailing list and the wiki page
> for a
> >>> few weeks now, and would like to say a quick thankyou to Graham Jones -
> it
> >>> looks like you've put alot of work into the proposal! Hopefully it will
> pay
> >>> off and get some quality software developed by people (like me?)
> >>>
> >>> Steve
> >>>
> >>> 2010/3/11 jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com <
> jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>> That is a great idea.
> >>>> What about making video as well, on how to use OSM/JOSM/Potlatch how
> to
> >>>> get started. Video Screencasts?
> >>>> mike
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Peteris Krisjanis <pecisk at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> For one of OSM GSoC'10 projects I would like to suggest "unofficial
> >>>>> guide" for mapping. We all know that there is a little haos in
> tagging
> >>>>> (some says it's good, some says it bad), but so far biggest confusion
> >>>>> comes from not how to tag things, but how to tag complex situations
> or
> >>>>> how to even map complex situations (and that's without even taking
> >>>>> micro mapping into account).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What we need is nice guide where is said - basic roads are maped like
> >>>>> this, crossroads created this way, this must be connected with that,
> >>>>> etc. It would also create a nice little base for futher experiments
> >>>>> and ideas. There's nothing wrong with seeking out alternative tags or
> >>>>> ways of mapping, but this at least should be documented somewhere.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> More or less everyone who would take this task would have to go
> trough
> >>>>> all archives, look for discusions and conlusions (and even if there
> is
> >>>>> no conlusion, writing down all sane opinions would help greatly) and
> >>>>> write it down in casual user manual style.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just a idea, but I think worth to explore,
> >>>>> cheers,
> >>>>> Peter.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2010/3/11 Graham Jones <grahamjones139 at googlemail.com>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> > Mike.
> >>>>> > Thank you for your suggestion.
> >>>>> > I do not know where the apache licence ref comes from.  This year's
> >>>>> > application says GPL with a note saying some is PD.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Graham
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > On Mar 11, 2010 7:36 AM, "jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com"
> >>>>> > <jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > My GSOC  suggestion :
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Get the potlatch running without any Adobe software, use gnash.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GSoC_Project_Ideas_2010#Porting_of_Potlatch_to_use_FLOSS_tools_and_viewer
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Also why does google list OSM as being apache licensed?
> >>>>> > http://code.google.com/soc/2008/streetmap/about.html
> >>>>> > Preferred license: Apache License, 2.0
> >>>>> > Since when?
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > I am putting all my new code under the affero GPL 3.0.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > mike
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Rajan Vaish <
> vaish.rajan at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> >> > Thanks Graham, > >...
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > _______________________________________________
> >>>>> > talk mailing list
> >>>>> > talk at openstreetmap.org
> >>>>> > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> mortigi tempo
> >>>>> P?teris Kri?j?nis
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dr. Graham Jones
> >> Hartlepool, UK
> >> email: grahamjones139 at gmail.com
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Dr. Graham Jones
> Hartlepool, UK
> email: grahamjones139 at gmail.com
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> From: Jukka Rahkonen <jukka.rahkonen at mmmtike.fi>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] osm2pgsql hstore support
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> Sven Geggus <lists <at> fuchsschwanzdomain.de> writes:
>
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I just commited a patch for osm2pgsl for optional generation of a
> > hstore column (hstore new).
>
> Hi,
>
> Sounds great. I had been thinkin about splitting geometries and tags to a
> pairs
> of tables (one with columns geometry and osm_id, another columns osm_id,
> key and
> value) but the hstore option seems to offer also an indexed access to all
> the
> tags. Obviously solution is not portable to Spatialite database, though.
>
> Any hope that somebody would compile a new osm2pgsql Windows version
> including
> the hstore option?
>
> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>
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