[OSM-dev] helping #switch2osm

Matthias Meißer digi_c at arcor.de
Fri Jan 13 11:18:57 GMT 2012

As Roger at least points to the similar topics, I started this page:
Feel free to extend/adapt it
Anybody an idea where to link it at the main page?


Am 13.01.2012 05:33, schrieb Roger Weeks:
> Hello
> I'm the person Mikel was helping (thanks Mikel!) and I joined the list
> to give my thoughts to this discussion. I think you have a couple of
> different types of people you may want to think about here.
> 1. IT/devops
> I fall into this category. The project I'm working on will require us to
> have our own tile server that takes planet_osm, processes it and
> produces updates to our client devices. Other people that fall into this
> category will be anyone who wants to build their own GIS database from
> planet_osm, for whatever reason. They'll also want to generate and serve
> tiles.
> My major problem all through this process has been the vast amounts of
> helpful and conflicting information. You'll note that the process I was
> following to get a working PostGIS database populated with planet_osm,
> was compiled by someone else and was not hosted at OSM. That process
> also is flawed and needed a bunch of other things to make it work.
> My suggestion for either a chef recipe, a juju charm, a puppet script,
> or <insert your configuration tool of choice here> was meant to fix this
> situation. If someone wants to set up a PostGIS OSM database, it should
> be a repeatable process that is easy to do and scalable across multiple
> *nix platforms. (I won't address Windows here as that's a whole other
> can of worms).
> Taking that idea a step further, if we were to provide a canned VM in
> KVM or Xen formats that provides not just the host OS, but preconfigured
> Postgres, PostGIS, an imported planet_osm, and then perhaps a choice of
> mapnik, mod_tile, tilestache, or any of the other plethora of tile
> generation and serving options, that would be an IDEAL way to summon
> IT/devops folks who want to build their own map server infrastructure.
> The last thing this needs is some really good documentation and
> recommendations for WHAT to do. There are enough options out there
> especially for tile generation and serving, that there needs to be a
> good discussion of what you would want to use and why.
> 2. Maps developers and users
> I'm not as familiar with the needs here but I think you are going to
> want to do things like what MapBox is doing with Tilemill and what
> Cloudmade is doing. The same comments I made above about recommendations
> of what you want to use and why need to be easily accessible.
> Happy to continue this discussion. I would be interested in
> participating in development of both recipes and VMs.
> Roger Weeks
> On Jan 13, 2012 3:37 AM, "Mikel Maron" <mikel_maron at yahoo.com
> <mailto:mikel_maron at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>      > Hi
>      >
>      > Over the past couple days, I gave some assistance to someone
>     setting up their own tile infrastructure. They mostly got along on
>     their own, following
>     http://weait.com/content/build-your-own-openstreetmap-server, and
>     picking through the wiki, but they definitely could've had an easier
>     time.
>      >
>      > And we should expect more of this soon, and we want this!
>     Nestoria and StreetEasy switching, the Wired article. Just the
>     beginning.
>     Yes. The time when people are recognising the power of OSM is here.
>     We should welcome everyone.
>      > How do we help folks get their tile servers up and running even
>     easier. Here's some suggestions we discussed...
>      >
>      > 1) Clear instructions, at an easily findable address (outside the
>     wiki, which is hard to follow) (anyone register switch2osm.com
>     <http://switch2osm.com>? or tryosm.org <http://tryosm.org>). Should
>     include some description of the different options, with links for
>     getting into the details ... but at least a clear guide through the
>     well worn path of setting up a tile server.
>      >
>      > 2) A packaged solution, like a chef recipe, to install everything
>     needed.
>      >
>      > 3) A VM image for an open source virtualization package, that has
>     everything installed. May not necessarily be for production, but at
>     least make it easy to try things out.
>      >
>      > 4) ....
>      >
>     Might be an overkilling idea, why not some quick screen casts? I
>     guess videos will be more easier to grasp than guides.
>      > Would the EWG be the place to get this together?
>      >
>      > Cheers
>      > Mikel
>      >
>      >
>      > == Mikel Maron ==
>      > +14152835207 <tel:%2B14152835207> @mikel s:mikelmaron
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