[OSM-dev] The new link on the OSM map

[Jason Remillard]

Hi,

This is not as much fun as complaining about something, but ....

- The new sharing page is fantastic.
- I love the fact that the url is updating as you move around, making
it possible to just copy/paste the url from the url bar.
- The previous design always bugged the crap out of me when it snapped
back to the old position and when the refresh button was pressed.
- I love that is remembers in the cookie that I like to see the notes.

Jason






On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Tom MacWright <tom at macwright.org> wrote:
> Is it really a terrible weight to update JOSM to recognize the new format?
> Given that JOSM is on version 6,115 and this is essentially a 'changing a
> regex' type situation.
>
> Can we stop calling any feature that changes the behavior of the site "a
> major step backwards"? Yes, things are different and possibly some use case
> you had is different or harder, but realize on the other side this is (1)
> generally a beneficial change and (2) the result of a volunteer already
> slogging through tens or hundreds of comments on a GitHub queue and finally
> getting it through. And, finally, it's merged... and the first thing we hear
> is negative criticism about a corner case that says "you did a bad thing
> entirely". This is why nobody wants to code on openstreetmap-website.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 3:36 AM, Peter Wendorff <wendorff at uni-paderborn.de>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Maarten,
>> the benefit with the new link format, where position and layers are
>> constantly stored in the part after the hash (#) is that browsers don't
>> need or assume to need a reload.
>> If you change the address (before the #) completely, a reload of the
>> page is necessary, that was the case up to the change.
>> Now it's not necessary to reload the page to get the correct link in the
>> address bar.
>> What you complain is of course an argument straight in the opposite
>> direction, but both ways are perfectly valid.
>> You are in fact right that it's not possible any more to determine from
>> the link which part of the coordinate is latitude and which is
>> longitude, but it's consistently the same any time, so that's not that
>> big problem either.
>> Probably the hash format could better be extended by lat/lon to be
>> something like #z=15/lat=51.2/lon=8.7
>>
>> Your complaint about reloading the page to get the initial view back is
>> IMHO an unusual one as it assumes that you go to the page with a direct
>> link to a defined position; something which is possible with osm.org,
>> but something nobody cared about in the last days probably.
>> For this wish I don't have a solution combining your demand with the
>> benefits of the new hash-format, but probably even there is a solution
>> possible.
>>
>> regards
>> Peter
>>
>> Am 08.08.2013 09:16, schrieb Maarten Deen:
>> > On 2013-08-08 09:08, Maarten Deen wrote:
>> >> Very nice that the main map now shows a link as standard, but why does
>> >> the format have to be changed? Now JOSM needs to be changed because it
>> >> does not recognise this type of link.
>> >> What was wrong with the old lat= and lon= style? From this link I can
>> >> not see what the latitude and longitude is. I have to know in which
>> >> order it is.
>> >>
>> >> I'm sorry, but IMHO this is yet another step backward.
>> >
>> > Added complaint: before, I could zoom in, move the map, do whatever I
>> > wanted and then reload the screen and I got the initial view back. Now
>> > the map link changes when you zoom or move the map, making it difficult
>> > to get the initial view back. You have to remember to copy the link and
>> > than paste it back again otherwise you will never get the initial view.
>> > Please get the old style link and working back. The fact that there is
>> > no direct visible link to the map is now the least of the problems.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Maarten
>> >
>> >
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