[OSM-dev] [Mapcss] Decision procedure for MapCSS (fwd)

[Stephan Bösch-Plepelits]

Hi!

I sent the attached email last week to the mapcss mailinglist.
Unfortunately I didn't get any answers, which is sad as I think that MapCSS
could need some development. Therefore I send this email to the osm-dev
mailinglist too, maybe there are some interested persons.

In the meantime I copied the MapCSS specification to a repository on Github
(which was fairly easy, as Github can render Mediawiki files):
https://github.com/plepe/mapcss

What do you think, anyone interested in improving MapCSS?

greetings,
        Stephan

----- Forwarded message from Stephan Bösch-Plepelits <skunk at xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at> -----

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:31:14 +0200
From: Stephan Bösch-Plepelits <skunk at xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at>
To: mapcss at openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Mapcss] Decision procedure for MapCSS

Hi!

As you might have read, I'm developer of a new MapCSS implementation,
PGMapCSS: https://github.com/plepe/pgmapcss/

I think that MapCSS has huge potential, as it is more general than other
definition languages like Cascadenik or CartoCSS. I've used Cascadenik long
enough to see its downsides (like complex database queries; no calculations).

My dream is that I can use the same map style on different devices: A web
site with a TMS/WMS based map; mobile devices with interactivity ; printed
maps; editors for OpenStreetMap data. Why not, if there are MapCSS
implementations for all these different devices.

On the other hand, MapCSS 0.2 is still very callow. Some definitions are
vague and important features are missing. The Wiki history shows, that
development has been very much in the hands of individuals. The conclusion
is the observable incompatibility between the different MapCSS
implementations.

I haven't found a procedure how new features are proposed, discussed and
finally decided. I also read the mailinglist thread from March 2013 with no
real outcome: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/mapcss/2013-March/thread.html

I thought about proposing stuff on the Wiki Talk page, but as it is mostly
deserted since 2011 I don't have much hope for feedback. I also don't want
to change the specification myself - there should be some kind of decision
process, don't you think?

I don't want to whine. I think we need a strategy how to overcome this
solution. My proposal:

* We move the MapCSS specification to a GitHub repository, preferably
  "openstreetmap/mapcss".
* If someone wants to propose a new feature, he/she creates a pull request,
  which will be merged by a maintainer after (say) a fortnight if no
  objections are raised.
* We can use the issue tracker to raise ideas and discuss details.
* We create a couple of reference styles for testing purposes, which are
  part of the repository.
* We finalize MapCSS 0.2 and allow only clarifications.
* We create a branch MapCSS 0.3 which will hopefully harmonize the
  incompatibilities.
* We document this decision process somewhere[tm].

There a several examples where specifications are developed on Github,
e.g.:
* https://github.com/mojombo/semver
* https://github.com/mustache/spec
* https://github.com/perl6/specs
Maybe we can take an example on them.

What do you think? I'd love to see MapCSS develop ...

greetings,
        Stephan

PS: If we decide to move to Github, I offer to take care of the transition
process.

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Mapcss mailing list
Mapcss at openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/mapcss

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