[diversity-talk] The recent unpleasantness

[Randal Hale]

and you are correct - I shouldn't have went asshole. I will apologize 
for using the word.

I'm 2000% good with moderation or a ban. I'm happy with it because I did 
something to hopefully stop the silliness that a percentage of the users 
exhibit up here. I hope the COC causes some people to think 
twice...possibly leave....because the bad behavior will not be tolerated.

I was referred here over a similar blowup - I'm looking for my diverse 
OSM using community. I witnessed the same thing happening again - it 
shouldn't happen here of all places. Too many times in my OSM life I've 
run into problems over abusive behavior. I've been on both sides of it - 
I'm no angel in this by any stretch.  I've had well respected users in 
the community go "LOL you know that's just the way <fill in the blank> 
is...LOL...Gotta love him/her" and excuse the behavior. Well - no I 
don't have to excuse it. It's inexcusable. Same thing with me calling 
serge an asshole. Inexcusable.

I don't believe this is a personal play ground for a few - although it 
seems that way far too often. I try to stay involved - and I see these 
outbursts. I want more people in OSM - But I'm not going to drag them 
into an environment where this can happen...and is tolerated.

I'm fine with a ban/moderation if that falls in line with the COC. It 
won't be appealed because I know calling someone a name shouldn't be 
tolerated. In the same way attacking someone over email shouldn't be 
tolerated or appealed. I had a friend leave OSM due to Serge's 
outbursts. He was rude to her in person. He was rude to her over email. 
She's gone. Won't be back. I brought her back into this a second time 
after the first incident going: "LOL you know that's just the way <fill 
in the blank> is...LOL...Gotta love him/her". It was Stupid on my part 
because I knew what would happen...if it happened once it will happen 
again.

Alyssa doesn't need banned or moderated. She responded to an attack. All 
she deserves is welcomed back.

Randy.


On 12/04/2014 10:24 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
> 2014-12-03 19:55 GMT+01:00 Tom MacWright <tom at macwright.org 
> <mailto:tom at macwright.org>>:
>
>     He didn't: his message didn't merit an apology and doesn't merit
>     respect.
>
>
>
> even if his message wouldn't merit respect, he as a person likely 
> does. Really no need to call anyone an asshole, especially when the 
> topic is the discussion of a code of conduct.
>
> cheers,
> Martin

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