[diversity-talk] Improve toilet tagging

[Rory McCann]

I forgot to mention it in my previous reply. But there is also a 
diversity mailing list for OSM (which I've CC'ed). There isn't a lot of 
traffic on it now, but this topic might interest people on that list.

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk

On 10.03.2017 21:43, Micah Cochran wrote:
> I am looking to improve tagging of toilets.  Specifically, I'm
> interested in tagging gender neutral toilets (unisex or "family
> toilets") and single-stall toilets.
>
> I'm using establishment  to mean any place that would be tagged that
> would have a public toilet within the place and that you would not
> create a separate node/area amenity=toilet.  So, public toilets in an
> amenity=restaurant or a shop=department_store, etc.
>
> I'm interesting in gather a little more information for toilets within
> an establishment.
>
> ===  Here are some deficiencies that I see with current toilet tagging
> scheme  ===
>
> #1. toilets: namespace for establishments
> #2. Single-stall versus Multi-stall tagging
> #3. A way to tag the toilets male/female/unisex within an establishment.
> #4. Wiki page amenity=toilets could use some example tagging.
>
>
> =====  Proposed ways to address those deficiencies  =====
>
> #1. toilets: namespace
> There could be a default toilets: namespace for when tagged within a
> place/establishment.    This would allow for tagging a richer level of
> toilet information.
>
> If it makes sense to tag or not, would be left up to the mapper.
>
> There might be a few places that this would have to be smoothed over to
> make this work.  (Example: indoor=yes doesn't necessarily make sense.)
>
> Note: The amenity=toilets page does mention the toilets: namespace, but
> my understanding is this namespace only applies to very few of the tags.
>
>
> #2. Single-stall versus Multi-stall tagging
>
> Is the toilet room itself intended to be used by a single person
> (single-stall) at a time or by multiple people (multi-stall)?
>
> Is "stall" the term used in British English for that arrangement of
> toilets?  Is there better term?  (Alternatively: Single-occupant /
> Multi-occupant could be workable.)
>
> Assume that male/female/unisex are all the same.  This could also be an
> instance that you are tagging a single restroom area.
> toilets:stall=single/multi
>
> This specifies male/female/unisex for that arrangement
> toilets:stall:male=single/multi
>
> For example, Target department stores might be tagged this way for male
> and female multi-stall toilets and a single-stall unisex toilets:
> toilets:stall=multi
> toilets:stall:unisex=single
>
> If you have both single-stall and multi-stall restrooms for male/female
> (note semi-colon separated for toilet:stall tag) :
> toilets:male=yes
> toilets:female=yes
> toilets:stall=single;multi
>
>
> toilets:stall tag should work for amenity=toilets and toilets within an
> establishment.
>
>
> #3.  A way to tag the toilets male/female/unisex within an establishment.
>
> This a specific instance of #1 :toilets namespace.  (Just in case, #1
> has issues.)
>
> This is to tag the male/female/unisex of provided restrooms.
>
> male/female tag is used for access to an establishment.  So a men's
> social club might use the tag male=yes.  There seem to be some
> facilities that have days only for males and other days only for females.
>
> toilets:male=yes/no
> toilets:female=yes/no
> toilets:unisex=yes/no
>
> If toilets:male=yes it should imply toilets:female=no and
> toilets:unisex=no. This is the same behavior as the male=* access tag.
>
>
> #4. Wiki page amenity=toilets could use some example tagging.
> The existing pictures could be used as examples with tags.  Other
> examples could be added.
>
> Note: I've seen some other issues regarding toilet tags, but I don't
> have the motivation to tackle those.
>
> Any feedback will be helpful and I will use it to inform writing a proposal.
>
> Thank you for your help,
> Micah
> --
>
> *Micah Cochran*
>
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