[Diversity-talk] Who says we need a code of conduct?

[russell.deffner at hotosm.org]

Dear Selene,

 

First, I am sorry – to anyone who has to deal with ignorance and/or harassment in the broader OSM community. I won’t pretend I can exactly put myself in your shoes, but I know I wouldn’t want to be there. I want to help build an environment where we at least have a way to address harassment. I took a quick look over the main website and searched the wiki for “harassment” and it only comes up with Codes of Conduct for conferences. A search for similar terms also returns pretty much nothing. So taking away those of us who know other OSM people and those who are brave enough to speak out on a list, etc. – how many potentially valuable contributors have been harassed out of the project because there is apparently nothing you can do about it?

 

I see great people on this list who I have no doubt can write an amazing Code of Conduct and maybe enforce it on this list and get other list admins to do the same, great start, but we really need the fundamental governance mechanisms to be adopted and enforced at the OSMF.

 

For clarity, I am a voting member of HOT and was their chair when we were in a similar situation and needed the mechanisms to enforce respectable behavior – which was not fun and took a long time. I am also a paying member of the OSM-US mainly because I run a few local meetups. But I am not, and will not be, a paying member of the OSMF until there is some significant work done to make OSM a safer community.

 

I urge everyone to pick their battles, but please – don’t feed the trolls,

=Russ

 

Russell Deffner

Russell.Deffner at hotosm.org

 

From: Selene Yang <seleneyang1 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 7:56 AM
To: OSM Diversity <diversity-talk at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: [Diversity-talk] Who says we need a code of conduct?

 

Hi! I wrote an entry in my OSM diary about diversity (https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SeleneYang/diary/43446)  in the community using the OSM Awards as an example, and one of the answers from an OSM collaborator was:

 

Comentario de  <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/cray33> cray33 el  <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SeleneYang/diary/43446#comment41167> 6 de marzo de 2018 a las 10:03

fuck diversity. A man and a woman are different from each other. You can't change the nature

 

So I guess... Who needs a CoC when we have such an inclusive and well mannered community. :sigh: This is not the first time I've read a violent response from a community member when it comes to gender related issues. I don't know if you recall the `man=made` vs  `human=made` debacle, and yet we're still here debating whether or not we need to enforce a CoC.

 

I'm truly disappointed in the community.

Thanks for reading.

 

Sele.




 

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Selene Yang Rappaccioli
Candidata Doctoral en Comunicación
Universidad Nacional de La Plata
@SeleneYang

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