[Diversity-talk] Code of conduct

Wed Dec 9 20:12:49 UTC 2020

Not sure how to make suggestions directly in the Google Doc or if i want to. 

I appreciate and feel broadly its sentiments but do not feel prepared to sign anything which has as a preamble an attack on one person, whatever the trigger. It's not equitable, risks entrenching the division. Principles sound but keep it about how things should be in a better world, not about how broken they are in this one.

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  Jo Walsh
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On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, at 2:29 AM, arnalie faye vicario wrote:
> Hello/*Kumusta*,
> 
> *Salamat*/Thanks everyone for continuing the conversations and taking 
> this seriously.
> 
> It is good to speak up and comment about it in our individual 
> capacities, but a collective can build a fire 🔥 (charcoal comparison). 
> 
> This is what we did in OSM PH's Call to Correct Narratives About 
> Geospatial Work in the Philippines (re: Amazon-HOT video).  
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/a/aa/A_Call_to_Correct_Narratives_about_Geospatial_Work.pdf>
> 
> Also, I would like to quote and highlight what David Garcia 
> (@mapmakerdavid) has shared in Twitter:
> > It is not just the maps that matters. Who *makes* the maps matters. Who *tells* the stories of the mapping matters, too. Who *LEADS* the mapping and storytelling also matters. Who *gets powerful* due to the mapping and storytelling matters most.
> 
> Thank you Geochicas, Celine @mapeadora, Heather, Rebecca, Miriam 
> @mapanauta, Nelson Minar, LCCWG Group, OSMF past/present Board members 
> (Kate, Rory and Mikel), HOT Community WG and everyone who expressed 
> support and has spoken up (apologies if I missed your name). It is 
> really encouraging and inspiring. Please add your thoughts in the 
> document: 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit
> 
> In case you missed it (like me), here is what Celine sent in the OSM 
> talk mailing list: 
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085727.html.
> 
> Let us keep the fire burning!
> 
> =Arnalie
> 
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 5:54 AM Clifford Snow <clifford at snowandsnow.us> wrote:
> > I should mention that what we, Maggie Crawely, Rob Nickerson and myself, want to accomplish is to create a committee to moderate the existing etiquette guidelines and later update the guidelines to reflect best practices of Code of Conducts.We planned to form a sub committee under the LCCWG since CoC is critical to Local Chapters. We did a survey of Local Chapters and those considering forming one. The results showed that 5 LC already had a CoC, 6 did not and 6 were consider or in a discussion to have a CoC.
> > 
> > Clifford
> > 
> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 1:36 PM Heather Leson <heatherleson at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Always
> >> Heather Leson
> >> heatherleson at gmail.com
> >> Twitter/skype: HeatherLeson 
> >> Blog: textontechs.com
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:31 PM Clifford Snow <clifford at snowandsnow.us> wrote:
> >>> Heather - A small group of the LCCWG met via BigBlueButton yesterday to start a similar initiative. I was going to send an invite to the rest of the LCCWG as well as to this mailing list. Since you have the ball rolling, can you include local at osmfoundation.org in the mailing.
> >>> 
> >>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 1:22 PM Heather Leson <heatherleson at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Great. working in the draft now.  
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thank you right back. Saturday is just a way to discuss this restart. We can keep building. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Heather 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Heather Leson
> >>>> heatherleson at gmail.com
> >>>> Twitter/skype: HeatherLeson 
> >>>> Blog: textontechs.com
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:10 PM Gertrude Namitala <trudyhope7 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Thanks Heather for starting this. I will try to be available.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>> Trudy 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, 23:05 Mikel Maron, <mikel.maron at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> This is great
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Tuesday, December 8, 2020, 03:55:49 PM EST, Heather Leson <heatherleson at gmail.com> wrote: 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Great!   Editing now
> >>>>>> Hope we can have an initial chat
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> heather
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Heather Leson
> >>>>>> heatherleson at gmail.com
> >>>>>> Twitter/skype: HeatherLeson 
> >>>>>> Blog: textontechs.com
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:33 PM Rebecca Firth <rebecca.firth at hotosm.org> wrote:
> >>>>>> > Hi Heather,
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> > Thanks for setting that up - I'll need to jig some things around but really hope to be able to join that meeting. Some people had already started working on a statement to share. I am sharing here for allies to add comments they would like to raise, and to identify people who are keen to move this work forward: https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit 
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> > Thanks,
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> > Rebecca
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 8:21 PM Heather Leson <heatherleson at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> >> Hey 
> >>>>>> >> 
> >>>>>> >> A few of us are going to meet this saturday about code of conduct in osm. There is a codw of conduct but we think there needs to be more. We can also touch on the diversity work that mikel shared previously.
> >>>>>> >> 
> >>>>>> >> 1500 utc before the osmf board meeting at 1600 utc.
> >>>>>> >> 
> >>>>>> >> Hope you can join. This will be a small group discussion. We can always widen the circle later.
> >>>>>> >> 
> >>>>>> >> Link to be shared later. Note this will be a safe and positive space discussion. We will adhere strongly to the diversity list code. 
> >>>>>> >> 
> >>>>>> >> Thanks so much
> >>>>>> >> 
> >>>>>> >> 
> >>>>>> >> Heather 
> >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> >> Diversity-talk mailing list
> >>>>>> >> Code of Conduct: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct
> >>>>>> >> Contact the mods (private): diversity-talk-owner at openstreetmap.org
> >>>>>> >> 
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> > -- 
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> Diversity-talk mailing list
> >>>>>> Code of Conduct: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct
> >>>>>> Contact the mods (private): diversity-talk-owner at openstreetmap.org
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Diversity-talk mailing list
> >>>> Code of Conduct: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct
> >>>> Contact the mods (private): diversity-talk-owner at openstreetmap.org
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> -- 
> >>> @osm_washington
> >>> www.snowandsnow.us
> >>> OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > @osm_washington
> > www.snowandsnow.us
> > OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch
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