[Diversity-talk] yay for LGBTQ+ OSM tagging! But LGBTQ friendly....

[Mikko Tamura]

Hi Rory! Thanks so much for the welcome! I hope I could get to meet others
soon.

Is the Openqueermap the mapping about lgbt experiences before? I think i
was able to see that but have had a difficulty adding pins. In my opinion,
lgbt spaces should be really on the map specially like osm. And I would
totally love to so a collaboration to help a more “lgbtq map of the world”
though honestly I still have hesitations to put such spaces since this can
be targeted by eveil doers (hope not). I hope you guys can encourage me
regarding this.


For the ID preset honestly, i dont know how to do that yet and we are using
mapcontrib to add tags on OSM. I would like to add more presets like lgbtq
hangout sites or lgbtq orphanages or temporary housing for plhiv.

The lgbtq=primary is actually confusing if not very very clear. I get the
gay bar and gay club thing but eventually what I think is that the
lgbtq=friendly would be a good tag to add. And would that capture the
subcultures presented such as lgbtq:bears=friendly or
lgbtq:lesbians=primarily.

I hope we can catch up through messenger or is there a telegram channel for
the diversity group. I would love to share or tagging of disease:hiv=yes in
the Philippines as i noticed that we are currently the only country using
it. But honestly I would want to have a separate tag for hiv testing center
specifically cause right now we are using : disease:hiv=yes;
healthcare=laboratory; healthcare:speciality=blood_check. What do you
think? Or do you think this would suffice?

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 10:57 PM Mikko Tamura <mikko.tamura at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Rory! Thanks so much for the welcome! I hope I could get to meet others
> soon.
>
> Is the Openqueermap the mapping about lgbt experiences before? I think i
> was able to see that but have had a difficulty adding pins. In my opinion,
> lgbt spaces should be really on the map specially like osm. And I would
> totally love to so a collaboration to help a more “lgbtq map of the world”
> though honestly I still have hesitations to put such spaces since this can
> be targeted by eveil doers (hope not). I hope you guys can encourage me
> regarding this.
>
>
> For the ID preset honestly, i dont know how to do that yet and we are
> using mapcontrib to add tags on OSM. I would like to add more presets like
> lgbtq hangout sites or lgbtq orphanages or temporary housing for plhiv.
>
> The lgbtq=primary is actually confusing if not very very clear. I get the
> gay bar and gay club thing but eventually what I think is that the
> lgbtq=friendly would be a good tag to add. And would that capture the
> subcultures presented such as lgbtq:bears=friendly or
> lgbtq:lesbians=primarily.
>
> I hope we can catch up through messenger or is there a telegram channel
> for the diversity group. I would love to share or tagging of
> disease:hiv=yes in the Philippines as i noticed that we are currently the
> only country using it. But honestly I would want to have a separate tag for
> hiv testing center specifically cause right now we are using :
> disease:hiv=yes; healthcare=laboratory; healthcare:speciality=blood_check.
> What do you think? Or do you think this would suffice?
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 10:26 PM Rory McCann <rory at technomancy.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mikko,
>>
>> I thought I'd reach out and say hi. I love what yous are doing with
>> MapBeks & doing lots of LGBTQ* mapping. This is great to see. 🙂
>>
>> There used to be an "OpenQueerMap" based on OSM, from someone else, but
>> it's defunt now. I want to make a replacement. Would you like to help
>> with that?
>>
>> I added “LGBTQ* bar” (etc) to the iD preset. It was easy. Have you
>> considered adding something for HIV testing places? I could help you if
>> you want.
>>
>> Can I talk to you about how you tag LGBTQ friendly spaces? You said you
>> were using `lgbtq=primary`, right? I think that has some problems. I
>> came up with the `lgbtq` tag. I wanted `lgbtq=primary` to be for venues
>> “which caters to an exclusively or predominantly LGBTQ audience, either
>> by the managers running it like that, or overwhelming convention”
>> (wiki). Where I come from (Ireland), or live now (Germany), there is a
>> difference a “gay bar” and a “gay-friendly bar”. (I am simplifying the
>> language, we both know LGBTQ+ is better than just “gay”). I think it
>> would be good to record that difference in OSM.
>>
>> Have you considered using another tag? Maybe `lgbtq=friendly` for “lgbtq
>> friendly”/“gay friendly” and to use `lgbtq=primary` for (what was
>> traditionally called) a “gay bar”?
>>
>> (However, I am now reading the wiki documentation (
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:lgbtq ), and I see that it does
>> also say “LGBTQ+ friendly places”. So I cannot be too hard on you! 🙂)
>> There is a problem in OSM of tagging _subjective_ places.
>>
>> Erwin asked me to send yous some of the LGBTQ* OSM stickers. I am now
>> getting back after the long christmas break, so I'll send yous a package
>> shortly. 🙂🏳️‍🌈
>>
>> Good luck in your event tomorrow. 🙂
>>
>> Rory
>>
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>
>
> *MIKKO L. TAMURA*
> *Administrator*
> *Map Beks Initiative*
>
> *Externals Head*
> *Pilipinas Chubs X Chasers*
>
> *Volunteer Mapper*
> *OpenStreetMap Philippines*
> *Contact Number: +639052320416*
>
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*MIKKO L. TAMURA*
*Administrator*
*Map Beks Initiative*

*Externals Head*
*Pilipinas Chubs X Chasers*

*Volunteer Mapper*
*OpenStreetMap Philippines*
*Contact Number: +639052320416*
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