[Historic] welcome Historic OpenStreetMap, introductions

Jeff Meyer jeff at gwhat.org
Tue Aug 21 19:39:56 BST 2012


Hi Mikel -

Thanks for putting this together!

I'm Jeff. <chorus>Hi, Jeff!</chorus> - my primary interest in improving the
quality and availability of digital map resources for improving history and
geography education in schools. I'm based in Seattle and am working (when
I'm not working to support this habit) on a variety of history &
mapping-related projects.

OSM's infrastructure seems like a great foundation for building a historic
mapping reference base for all the points you've mentioned. I'm not sure of
a need to make OSM more history-aware, but that's a wholly separate
discussion topic. What about a meeting at OSM/SOTMNA in Portland?

Per your request, here are some other historic mapping efforts that I think
should be included in any discussion of this sort:
General-purpose / platform history mapping tools:
- MapStory - www.mapstory.com - OpenLayers-based historic mapping
infrastructure

Some sites that could use Historic OSM-type data (or vice versa):
- Big History - www.bighistoryproject.com
- LookBackMaps - www.lookbackmaps.net (part of HistoryPin -
www.historypin.com)
- Pastmapper - www.pastmapper.com
- Pleiades - pleiades.stoa.org
- Old Oakland - www.teczno.com/old-oakland
- OldSF - oldsf.org
- OmnesViae: Roman Route Planner - www.omnesviae.org
- ORBIS: Roman World Geospatial - orbis.stanford.edu
- Ushahidi - ushahidi.com
- visualeyes - www.viseyes.org
- Visualizing Emancipation - dsl.richmond.edu/emancipation

There's also a digital storytelling effort out of UVa, the name is escaping
me.

Jeff Meyer
Global World History Atlas
www.gwhat.org


On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Mikel Maron <mikel_maron at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> A long time coming (though not at all approaching the time ranges we'll be
> dealing with) here's the OSM Historic list.
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic
>
> I wrote up this description for what this list is about. It's not the
> finest crafted bit of text in the world, and you may even disagree with it,
> but here's my best conception of what we're about here. We can refine.
>
> This may now be the moment for OpenHistoricalMap. There's a critical mass
> of interest in exploring open collaboration of historic geodata.
>
> It makes a good deal of sense to approach this from the experience of
> OpenStreetMap. An open database and API, & free tagging with community
> discussion is a proven model for collaboration among a diverse set of uses.
> The software ecosystem offers much to build off: the API, renderer,
> editors, gazateer...
>
> Question for anyone who's looked at this closely is how tightly linked
> into OSM.org should this be. As is, you can easily specify time delimited
> tags (start_date=*, end_date=*), but the OSM tool chain does not have
> in-built awareness for them. For an example of the problem, here's the
> situation for multiple years of Burning Man (http://osm.org/go/Tc4Ki1bp-).
> Should OSM.org itself become time-aware, or rather, should OSM.org continue
> to represent only the "present moment"? No matter the answer, there's one
> good and feasible approach here to the broader question, and in any case,
> OHM will benefit.
>
>
> There's a lot to talk about, and there's a lot to experiment with. First,
> let's convene. A few of us have already joined the list. Feel free to
> extend the invite to other folks interested in this topic. And please do
> _introduce yourself_ and how you're interested in historic mapping.
>
> As for doing, I had in mind...
>
> * Build a few solid example target use cases for OHM. A historic NYC
> gazateer. Mapping before and after effect of new oil industry
> infrastructure in Tanzania. Visualize Burning Man over the years.
> * Set up software infrastructure to experiment, including custom, time
> sensitive render, filters for editing in JOSM, etc.
> * Hash things out and do brilliant stuff.
>
> Also curious to hear about other projects out there that overlap, and what
> kind of data is out there.
>
> Welcome!
>
> Mikel
>
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Jeff Meyer
Global World History Atlas
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jeff at gwhat.org
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