[Historic] What would you put on a historic map?

Jeff Meyer jeff at gwhat.org
Mon Aug 27 23:52:44 BST 2012


Dan - great q. So simple, right?

One thing I've been thinking about (not to hijack this discussion) on this
topic is the need for some sort of "event" model.

Event being (very clumsily) something like: <actor(s)> <action> [actor(s)]
<place> <time> <source>.

<actor> could be something like <animal> or <object> or <entity>.
<action> like "built," "paint," or "constructed," "killed," "agreed,"
"negotiated," etc.
<place> could be a point, lines, polys, or sets thereof, or maybe even
actors.

etc.

For example, for PastMapper:
"Restaurant A" opened at the "Marina Building Y" on "our cool time standard
(octs)" "SF building records"
"Restaurant B" opened at the "Marina Building Y" on "octs + 12 months" "my
visual observation"
"Marina Building Y" finished at "building poly" on "octs = circa 1925"

"US CA Congressional District 13" redistricted at "gerrymander poly" on
"octs" "Congressional Record"

"Gazelles" lived at "gazelle habitat 1875" on "octs=1875" "biologist paper"

There's plenty of other information that's missing from this simple (and
misguided?) of a model, but I think some sort of atomic event model might
be used for any of the historic items listed below.

Examples of missing info:
OldSF:
"picture" taken at "corner of Lombard and Polk" on "octs=the other day at
6pm"

this doesn't really tell the direction or azimuth of the picture being
taken.

I'm also not sure this is a very interesting way of identifying when
streets were built and the patterns they follow. But, it would be
interesting to know, for example, where our historic foot and horse paths
were in Seattle, which survived into early automotive roads, and which have
faded away. It would, however, provide a way for building timelines for
individual entities.

I'm not aware of any existing or helpful event models.

- Jeff

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Dan Vanderkam <danvdk at gmail.com> wrote:

> What would you put on a Historic Map?
>
> Some things I'd like to see are:
> - Borders of various sorts (empires, countries, states, counties,
> congressional districts...)
> - Notable events (e.g. military conflicts, births, deaths)
> - Journeys (e.g. Columbus's voyages)
> - Archaeological sites
> - Streets & Blocks
> - Census records (who lived here, when?)
> - Photographs and Paintings
>
> Surely there are many other things. What would you guys like to see?
>
>   - Dan
>
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