[Historic] OSM Historic session at SOTM USA in Portland

[Jeff Meyer]

Brad -

I think this is a great example. My first reaction is... too hard? Too much
data available? The beauty of much older (e.g. pre-2000) historic
information is that there's a lot less of it, and there's a good
opportunity for info overload.

Then I think... it's great! This case highlights a lot of the tradeoffs
we're looking at & discussing:
- Potentially differing time standards and need for translation / data
cleaning when taking data from different sources
- Combining rendering approaches - OSM-generated tiles for the pre-Katrina
NOLA infrastructure & something else for showing the finer-time-grain
events of the hurricane & levee breakage / flooding?

- Jeff

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Brad Thompson <brad at pastmapper.com> wrote:

> Congrats on getting selected, Jeff! Looks like you've got a compelling session ahead of you.
>
> Agenda items look good to me -- I wish I could be in Portland for this discussion!
>
> My two cents -- if there's time, it might also be interesting, in addition to your point about existing historical applications that could use historical data, to consider not only distant-past applications like Civil War battles, etc, but also to note the enhancements that would be made possible for nearer-term projects that make do with present-day maps when they're ostensibly describing historical information. For example, for a visualization of the path of Hurricane Katrina, it would be more useful if the hurricane overlay were displayed on top of urban developments accurate to 2005 (showing an intact Lower Ninth Ward, for instance) instead of the present-day map imagery, which would anachronistically show Katrina itself bearing down on urban infrastructure that has undergone years of post-Katrina rebuilding. In other words, temporally-accurate maps would offer a slew of unintended benefits to existing map visualizations.
>
> I'll be very curious to hear about the feedback and conversations that come from your session. Report back!
>
> Cheers
>
> Brad
>
>
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>> Hey team -
>>
>> SOTM USA selected my proposal for a session on online time machines -
>> w00t!
>>
>> Anyone interested in helping out / have suggestions of things I should be
>> sure to cover?
>>
>> I'd like to use this 25 minutes to highlight some of the objectives of OHM
>> & the issues we've started to identify on this list.
>> I'm also thinking of a perspective of "What's happened since Frankie
>> Roberto's last pitch?"
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> Original submission:
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>> # OSM and Online Time Machines
>>
>> OSM has focused primarily on the here and now, but it provides a great
>> infrastructure and foundation for the creation and collection of historic
>> information. This presentation will review:
>>
>> - Past efforts at using OSM to record historic information & lessons
>> learned
>> - The beloved start_date and end_date tags
>> - Temporal rendering and storytelling challenges
>> - Current historic storytelling applications that could consume OSM
>> historic data
>> - Establishment of a historic OSM sandbox environment
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>>
>> --
>> Jeff Meyer
>> Global World History Atlas
>> www.gwhat.org
>> jeff at gwhat.org
>> 206-676-2347
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Jeff Meyer
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