[OHM] OHM Hangout - 18 Dec, 8am PT US / 4pm London

Jeff Meyer jeff at gwhat.org
Mon Dec 15 17:27:43 UTC 2014


Karl -

I echo Rob's invitation to bring these questions to the hangout - they're
probably more interesting to answer in a group.

That said, various parts of the OSM community have received grant funding
of some sort or another, both directly and indirectly. Mapbox's Knight
Foundation grants come to mind, along with some of the humanitarian grants
HOT has received. Both of those have made positive impacts on the community.

We may be charting some new territory by trying to go after something like
this, but if we can use this type of funding to move OHM in a direction the
community supports, that would be great.

And, obviously, if we can figure out a way to support the Orbis Initiative
with OHM in ways that benefit everyone, that would be even better!

Looking forward to the hangout!

- Jeff


On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Rob H Warren <warren at muninn-project.org>
wrote:
>
> Karl,
>
> OHM is not OSM. This is actually the 'historic' mailing list of OSM.
> Occasionally, we highjack it for OHM matters and similarly, we try
> Susanna's patience by borrowing time on Wikimaps hangouts.
>
> OHM is not incorporated at the moment and has been supported out-of-pocket
> by a few people and topomancy. Given limited resources, decisions have been
> taken by whomever put in the time to implement them.
>
> There have been a number of grants submitted, sometimes successfully even,
> in the past years to build various bits that needed doing. We need to talk
> about what part of OHM fits within the current NEH call and the team that
> will handle it.
>
> Why don't you add to the etherpad agenda for the hangout?
> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/OHM_Meeting_Dec_18
>
> -rhw
>
>
> On Dec 14, 2014, at 8:00 AM, historic-request at openstreetmap.org wrote:
>
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 10:48:24 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Karl Grossner <karlg at stanford.edu>
> > To: historic at openstreetmap.org
> > Subject: Re: [OHM] OHM Hangout - 18 Dec, 8am PT US / 4pm London
> > Message-ID:
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> >
> > Hello OHMers,
> >
> > I'm planning to join the upcoming hangout and have a few questions I
> thought I'd put out in advance...
> >
> > The discussion of going for an NEH grant has me confused. I'm wondering
> how a large(ish) federal grant and the various norms for that sort of thing
> squares with OSM/OHM approached to development so far. For example, grants
> have submitting institutions, and PIs who formulate phasing and technical
> plans for deliverable work products and are then responsible to taxpayers
> for results; key staff are named, etc. etc.
> >
> > My impression of OSM development (no expert, though) is that it has come
> together ad hoc, dev decisions arrived at collectively and so on. Is that
> the case? Has OSM Foundation received government or foundation support in
> the past? If not, is OHM charting a different course? Is anyone "lead" or
> co-lead" from a grant perspective? As OSM Foundation is a UK corporation,
> is it even eligible for NEH funding? Also, it strikes me that "mapping
> what's on the ground" is different from mapping what's on old maps in some
> important ways, with some key research-y questions ahead.
> >
> > Separately, my own interest is in putting together an "Orbis Initiative"
> to build a global historical transport network data repository and some
> tools for ingest, creation, search/browse and analysis. So that limits it
> to settlements and inter-city data for the most part (plus maritime) and
> includes some network analytic tools. I plan to seek big(ish) funding and
> it would happen in a university research/library setting. I fully support
> the idea of OHM and hope for strong connections if not integration in the
> future. As I put this idea together I want to keep you all informed and
> welcome feedback/reaction.
> >
> > cheers, Karl
> >
> > -------------
> > Karl Grossner
> > Stanford,CA US
> > www.kgeographer.org
>
>
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