[OHM] The Atlas of Historical County Boundaries

[Jeff Meyer]

Todd -

It would be great if you could take the lead on patching / collaboratively
drafting. We do need some help here.

That said... this is a big question area - how _do_ we want to manage the
data inside OHM? We aren't bound to adhere to the OSM ODBL license
(apologies if I'm out of date on the latest OSM licensing thinking). But,
if we have plans to import much OSM data (a la city stripping), which is a
huge advantage of leveraging the OSM stack and data, we should think
carefully about how we mix data from OSM along with data from other sources
(e.g. Open Context, Pleaides) that might cc0-based/variations of database
licenses (and possibly preferable to ODBL for OHM).

This all makes me wonder if all OHM imports and data entry should be
explicitly tagged with a data source (for provenance and copyright
purposes).

We definitely need some leadership here (Todd?) & I'd be glad to recruit
legal assistance to help us figure out / implement what is is we'd like to
do.

- Jeff


On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:17 PM, todd.d.robbins at gmail.com <
todd.d.robbins at gmail.com> wrote:

> Eric,
>
> That's great to know! On a related note: we need to update this
> documentation ASAP: http://www.openhistoricalmap.org/copyright
>
> Is this something I could patch? Or do we want to draft it collaboratively?
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:12 PM, todd.d.robbins at gmail.com <
> todd.d.robbins at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Very important points Jerry. Thank you! I guess I'll start tracing these
>> by hand in JOSM/geojson.io then. ;-)
>>
>> A more direct route could be to discuss a change in licensing directly
>> with The Newberry. Sounds like the idea is off the table for now though.
>>
>>
>> –Tod
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:08 PM, SK53 <sk53.osm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The data are CC-BY-NC-SA.
>>>
>>> It's not something we have talked about in any detail, but in general I
>>> would assume we want to work OHM on license terms similar or equivalent to
>>> OSM (i.e., ODbL, which allow commercial usage). The academic world tends to
>>> release things CC-BY-NC-SA, but recent German case law interprets that as
>>> 'for private use only', e.g., publication in a journal published by a
>>> for-profit company, even if the author receives no payment, would (quite
>>> rightly IMO) be deemed commercial.
>>>
>>> This does raise a problem because many in the digital humanities are
>>> fine with CC-BY-NC-SA, there is no consensus to accept eliminating the
>>> non-commercial restriction. It also means that certain fine digital
>>> humanities data collections are not directly usable in OHM.
>>>
>>> This is an issue which we need to discuss.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> PS. I have looked at time to time at historical boundaries in England &
>>> Wales: even quite recent boundary changes would be useful, just to
>>> interpret some current Open Data releases.
>>>
>>> On 25 March 2015 at 17:39, todd.d.robbins at gmail.com <
>>> todd.d.robbins at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyone want to work with me to get these boundary changes into OHM?
>>>>
>>>> http://publications.newberry.org/ahcbp/
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tod Robbins
>>>> Digital Asset Manager, MLIS
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