[OHM] Building Infrastructure for OHM ­– RPA Historic Wetland Mapping

Albin Larsson albin.post at gmail.com
Thu Oct 29 23:52:42 UTC 2015


Maps Warpers mask feature can deal with those map borders ;-)

Here is the OHM instance of TM:
https://github.com/Abbe98/osm-tasking-manager2/tree/RPA-wetlands

Everything should be working except, making queries directly to OHM using
the Overpass Turbo link, it's possible using some data setting in the URL
but I haven't used it recently. Some string could say OpenStreetMap in some
places to but most of them should be right.

For OAuth I created an app "RPA - Wetlands" it's "Main Application URL" is
set to the Github repo but as far as I remember this won't be an issue at
least not when running it locally.

//
Albin

2015-10-29 21:17 GMT+01:00 Sanjay Seth <sanjay at rpa.org>:

> That was quick! Looking forward to test driving the TM tomorrow. Thanks
> for jumping in on this, Albin.
>
> The good thing about the maps we have chosen is that, based on the 1830 to
> 1850 time period, there isn't significant overlap of map content. However,
> there are overlapping borders that do need to be cropped out.
>
> I am hesitant to use Map Warper for these historic maps, as the features
> on the map are mostly natural. But I could be convinced. Here's our current
> methodology for georeferencing:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/g2fz8ti9npmbh30/Tutorial_and_Methodology_for_Mapping_Historic_Wetlands.pdf?dl=0
>
> These are all of the maps we are going to georeference from the NY metro
> region:
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q73vhjrnj0e1lbf/AADTjbuSbYM7n2JgtWLG-vOya?dl=0
>
> This is a map RPA created in 2003 that looks at many of the historic
> wetlands in the NY/NJ Harbor, from a single British survey map:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pc0p9i6nlvfs1tm/RPA_Historic_TIdelands_NYNJ_Harbor_Estuary.jpg?dl=0
>
> And here are some examples of georeferenced maps (Tif):
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xe0naanoabdtavt/AACiPDiUyGJA6LbrOjIOpqO2a?dl=0
>
> In order to create a draft TMS, I uploaded the individually referenced
> maps as GeoTIFFs into TileMill, combined into a single map, and was able to
> export a single map in a TMS format.
>
> However, ideally to make this scalable beyond the New York metro region,
> we would want to use something like MapWarper to make it easy for others to
> georeference other geographies or times series.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks! -s
>
>
> Sanjay Seth | Research Analyst
> (917) 546-4327 | www.rpa.org
> Regional Plan Association
> ________________________________________
> From: Albin Larsson [albin.post at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 3:51 PM
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> Cc: Historic at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [OHM]      Building Infrastructure for OHM ­– RPA Historic
> Wetland Mapping
>
> But that wouldn't work if the maps overlap? Such as maps over the same
> area but for different time periods.
>
> I got an instance of TM up and running against OHM, will probably find
> some issues but is published my code later tonight.
>
> //
> Albin
>
> You need to look at what Donal Diamond (IrlJdel) does for the GSGS3906
> maps which are individually warped on map warper, but pulled together in a
> single TMS layer.
>
> Example individual map TMS:
> http://mapwarper.net/maps/tile/11180/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png<
> http://mapwarper.net/maps/tile/11180/%7Bzoom%7D/%7Bx%7D/%7By%7D.png>
> Combined TMS: tms[18]:
> http://mapwarper.net/layers/tile/101/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png<
> http://mapwarper.net/layers/tile/101/%7Bzoom%7D/%7Bx%7D/%7By%7D.png>
>
> I don't know what magic is involved, but it works.
>
> Jerry
>
> On 29 October 2015 at 19:20, Albin Larsson <albin.post at gmail.com<mailto:
> albin.post at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 3000 maps is a bit of a issue, iD API for custom TMS layer only support
> one at a time, and I guess that those 3000 maps is overlapping too? For
> example the HOT TM has one TMS layer for each project, something that
> wouldn't work in this case.
>
> I see two possible solutions for this, one is to add the link to each
> relevant TMS layer in the task description, this would be a lot of manual
> work. Another and probably better solution is to add all maps to iDs
> imagery index, currently there is less then 200 maps there, I'm not sure
> about how much 3000 maps would affect performance... This solution requires
> that all maps has bounding boxes. Maybe I would need to setup a custom iD
> instance too...
>
> //
> Albin
>
>
> 2015-10-29 20:03 GMT+01:00 Steven Johnson <sejohnson8 at gmail.com<mailto:
> sejohnson8 at gmail.com>>:
> Hi Albin,
> I think that's essentially the task, but instead of invoking
> openstreetmap, the TM would instead point to OHM. Awesome if you can stand
> up a new instance!
> Thanks,
>
> -- SEJ
> -- twitter: @geomantic
> -- skype: sejohnson8
>
> There are two types of people in the world. Those that can extrapolate
> from incomplete data.
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Albin Larsson <albin.post at gmail.com
> <mailto:albin.post at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I'm looking into it, shouldn't take much time at all to setup. Just
> setting up a new TM instance connected to OpenHistoricalMap?
>
> //
> Albin
>
> On Oct 29, 2015 19:32, "Sanjay Seth" <sanjay at rpa.org<mailto:sanjay at rpa.org>>
> wrote:
> Hi folks –
>
> I had sent around an email about a month ago about a project at RPA (
> www.rpa.org<http://www.rpa.org>) to map the historic wetlands of the New
> York metropolitan region from the 1830’s - 1850’s, as part of our research
> on climate adaptation. (See email chain below for details).
>
> The project has started to take off. We have had a great response from the
> community so far – and have partnered with Steven Johnson at TeachOSM and
> others to shepherd this mapping effort. Through this project, we hope to
> build out some of the infrastructure that would help the OHM community
> continue to grow.
>
> For this project, we will need a Tasking Manager that is connected to OHM.
> We could build off the TeachOSM TM by overriding the default iD link for
> each job – or set up an entirely separate TM for OHM. I think the latter
> may be a better option. Is there other infrastructure OHM needs to move
> forward that could fit in the scope of this project? (I have a modest
> amount of funding that I could use to defray some of the cost of
> development time. Can anyone on this list point me in the direction of
> someone who would be willing to get an OHM-connected TM up and running?)
>
> I look forward to hearing any comments, questions, ideas, suggestions from
> you about this project as it moves forward – and to gauge your interest in
> the project as a whole. If you would like to be involved in this project,
> please feel free to contact either myself (sanjay at rpa.org<mailto:
> sanjay at rpa.org>) or Steven (sejohnson8 at gmail.com<mailto:
> sejohnson8 at gmail.com>).
>
> Thanks!
> Sanjay
>
> Sanjay Seth | Research Analyst
> (917) 546-4327<tel:%28917%29%20546-4327> | www.rpa.org<http://www.rpa.org>
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