[HOT] Pakistan Imagery

Peter STUMPF Peter.STUMPF at unoosa.org
Wed Sep 1 11:32:44 BST 2010

We're actually working on an imagery fund to get rid of the licence issues we are all having.

So in times of a disaster, we would just buy imagery from a satellite provider and open it up on a wms. Not only you, but also our users keep asking for raw data, and that's the only way of going. Buying this stuff, so you can be sure, it'll be there right after the disaster and publishing it, so anybody can access it. Thinking of earthquakes where every hour counts and only having imagery after 3 days doesn't make any sense. If you buy it, you get the service. If you ask for free, you're always depending on the good will of the provider.

The pot we're trying to fill up is part of our SpaceAid framework, which helps getting access to post-disaster imagery.
Promoting this pot, could help all of us. 


Peter Stumpf

United Nations Platform for Space-based Information
for Disaster Management and Emergency Response

United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs

Hermann-Ehlers-Str. 10
53113 Bonn

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From: Sam Larsen <samlarsen1 at yahoo.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: [HOT] Pakistan Imagery

This is not a call for a license debate - especially on this list; i am just 
interested in the potential impact of the new license on HOT activities.  

Of those who did contact agencies and asked them to release imagery for use in 
OSM under the ODbL & CT's - is there a feeling that it is more difficult to get 
them to agree to these conditions than it was for Haiti with just CC-BY-SA?  Has 

anyone come across comments from imagery suppliers that specifically voiced 
their concerns about signing up to the new license terms?  As we are dealing 
with people's lives here, i would like to know if our activities are being 
adversely affected by the license change.

This is just a call for feedback from those who have had direct contact with 
imagery suppliers.  If anyone wants to throw their two cents in about the 
license change - please post it to [legal-talk].

Apologies to all those who are trying to avoid license debates - so am i, but 
this just struck me as a potential sticking point for my activities.


>From: Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com>
>To: HOT <hot at openstreetmap.org>
>Sent: Wed, 1 September, 2010 9:56:06
>Subject: Re: [HOT] Pakistan Imagery
> Le 31/08/2010 20:50, Katie Filbert a écrit : 
>>Also, please take a look through the imagery listings on both the Digital Globe 
>>and GeoEye website.  I did a brief look a couple weeks ago on the digital globe 
>>and didn't find much post-flooding that covered the region and had low cloud 

I had in mind that it was not clear whether OSM was allowed to use them for 
tracing, from:

-------- Message original -------- 
Sujet: Re: [CrisisMappers] Potential imagery for Pakistan 
Date : Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:28:07 -0500 
De : Ian Dees <ian.dees at gmail.com> 
Répondre à : crisismappers at googlegroups.com 
Pour : crisismappers at googlegroups.com 
Copie à : hot <hot at openstreetmap.org>, Kashif Rasul <kashif.rasul at gmail.com> 

I have the USGS/DigitalGlobe imagery ready to be used if we can clarify the 
licensing issues. 

Has anyone found any other imagery?

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Shoaib Burq <saburq at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all
>This is just to let you know Kashif and I have drafted a letter to
>send to either National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency or Digital
>Globe to get permission to use the imagery.
>Please see: http://piratepad.net/0mAOCFV6fi
>If someone knows who we need to ask their contact would be much
>appreciated. We can then go ahead an setup a TileServer and WMS
>Shoaib Burq

Has any answer been received ?

Best regards,



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