[HOT] [RFC] suggestions for HOT work
Peter Wendorff
wendorff at uni-paderborn.de
Mon Aug 13 10:56:52 BST 2012
Am 13.08.2012 08:20, schrieb Oleksij Rempel:
> Hallo all,
>
> i have some suggestions and questions (comments are welcome):
>
> - not always HOT has same kind of event, but it seems like many event
> have epicenteric character. For example earthquakes - we have big todo
> filed and different levels of damage. It will make sense if HOT website
> will allow to mark epicenter and manage tasks from it. It should be
> visible so you can decide by your self what to take, and if you press
> "take a task" button, you will get nearest one to epicenter.
I'm not sure if that's the best strategy.
1) An unpopulated region around the epicenter maybe is totally
uninteresting.
2) even a populated region that's nearer e.g. to a on-sea epicenter of
an earthquake/tsunami might be less interesting if it has not been hit
that hard because of a different shore shape than another region more
far away.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but that's why I don't think an automated (!)
decision out of the "epicenter" information is useful.
On the other hand it's a nice idea to have an adjustable control
strategy for the task scheduling, where "start at epicenter (x,y) and
take the nearest" could be one example, as well as "this is the area and
the most important part for the first run is the part along that
river/motorway/mountain ridge..."
No idea how exactly that could be solved best.
> - in many cases we need as match information as possible, but since we
> have not time, first thing todo are roads, power lines and residential
> areas. I think it will help to concentrate and coordinate this tasks
> better if hot-site will have multilevel tasks. Currently there is only
> "not ready", "ready" and "validated". How about "step one - roads",
> "step ... - buildings", "validated"?
would not set it to "steps" as some tasks may be dependent on the
experience of a mapper: If I have no idea about how to "read" imagery
about powerlines, I might better trace rivers and lakes first (given
that roads are done), and probably on the long run there's some civil
protection organisation that actively supports osm/hot mapping
themselfes and there's the power coordination troup that is working on
powerlines before streets are traced by mappers - but they trace it.
> - power lines. how match are they important and if really important i
> would see some tool which allow creating tagged line and points at one shot.
I know from the THW (German Federal Agency of technical relief) that
they have groups to do power supply. In the first run the set up
generators for their own needs and afterwards they start to repair and
secure the power infrastructure (where possible and necessary).
> - Currently it is second my job with lots of slums. May be some of them
> not really slums, but they are pain in ass if you need to draw them.
> Should we draw them? Or there is some kind of landuse=slum tag?
In general OSM (speaking not HOT specific, so there may be tagging
specifically for slums, too) doesn't define mapping according to law,
but according to what's on the ground.
A slum where people live in is - on the ground, without looking into law
books - some kind of residential area, as the people living there are
residents, I would say.
Many slums on the world are de facto residential areas, even if not or
not originally allowed by the authorities.
With that I would not use landuse=slum distinct from landuse=residential.
If - and I'm not sure about that, I would add a secondary tag to mark
that residential area as slum; but keep in mind that there's often no
hard line between slum, "usual residential area" and a camp built
for/of/by people hit by a desaster.
regards
Peter
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