[HOT] [RFC] suggestions for HOT work

Stéphane Henriod s at henriod.info
Mon Aug 13 22:20:50 BST 2012


Then I had just missed it... sorry!

Thanks Kate

Stéphane
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On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Kate Chapman <kate at maploser.com> wrote:

> Hi Stéphane,
>
> You can load an overlay of your area in Potlatch. After you have
> clicked to open the area in Potlatch go back to the Tasking Manager
> screen there is a link there to load an overlay in Potlatch.
>
> -Kate
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Stéphane Henriod <s at henriod.info> wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > Something I have realised for the first time a few days ago...
> >
> > I usually use the tasking manager with JOSM, which is fine because JOSM
> > clearly shows me "where my task is" (basically, what is outside my task
> > appears as a kind of net). It's this easy to see where I have to map and
> > where I have to stop.
> >
> > But a few days ago I had to use Potlatch... and this is another story!
> The
> > tasking manager directs me to an area that is slightly bigger than the
> task
> > I took, and without any way for me to see if I'm mapping in or outside my
> > task...
> >
> > I don't know if I have missed something! If yes, please accept my
> apologies.
> > But if not, it would be helpful if the extent of task could somehow be
> > displayed on Potlatch as well... But I don't know how realistic it is?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Stéphane
> > --
> > "Le mot progrčs n'aura aucun sens tant qu'il y aura des enfants
> malheureux"
> > -- Albert Einstein
> >
> > "A journey does not need reasons. Before long, it proves to be reason
> enough
> > in itself. One thinks that one is going to make a journey, yet soon it is
> > the journey that makes or unmakes you." -- Nicolas Bouvier
> >
> > Photos de voyages, photos de montagne: http://www.henriod.info
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 9:34 PM, clara <clara at aktivix.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> If a coordinator could highlight important tiles than that would be
> >> quite useful for people like me who come and pick a tile - while being
> >> very flexible.
> >>
> >> Letting people choose randomly which square they pick or in which
> >> order they want to do things makes it also much easier to start
> >> mapping - especially if the information in the workflow is quite clear.
> >>
> >> Personally, I pick different tiles depending on the amount of time I
> >> have. And I've done tiles where I've done a lot but then didn't set
> >> them as "ready" because there was something in there where I was
> >> unsure about. With a fixed order I might have abandoned them earlier.
> >>
> >> And while I can understand the idea of an automated system: It does
> >> feel different if I assume that somebody took a decision which areas
> >> have a priority. It means I'm reacting to somebody's request for -
> >> targeted - help, not to an automated system.
> >>
> >> Just my two cents as somebody who ever so often just picks a square to
> >> map...
> >>
> >> greetings
> >> clara
> >>
> >> On 13/08/12 18:46, Pierre Béland wrote:
> >> > There are various ways that could contribute to map more rapidly
> >> > some areas. The map could be thought to show the Imagery (what is
> >> > to be mapped) and the OSM layer (what has been done so far).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > For example, if the Satellite Imagery was added as one of the
> >> > background layers in the Task manager map, the mappers could
> >> > examine rapidly and focus on specific zones like the housing areas.
> >> > It would be possible to compare rapidly the Imagery and OSM data if
> >> > it was possible to show a transparent OSM layer over the Imagery
> >> > layer.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > We could also think of the possibility for the coordinator to
> >> > highlight some square tasks to be treated in priority. These
> >> > squares could be showed with a different color (yellow for
> >> > example).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Pierre
> >> >
> >> > Oleksij Rempel <bug-track at fisher-privat.net> wrote Hallo all,
> >> >>
> >> >> i have some suggestions and questions (comments are welcome):
> >> >>
> >> >> - not always HOT has same kind of event, but it seems like many
> >> >> event have epicenteric character. For example earthquakes - we
> >> >> have big todo filed and different levels of damage. It will make
> >> >> sense if HOT website will allow to mark epicenter and manage
> >> >> tasks from it. It should be visible so you can decide by your
> >> >> self what to take, and if you press "take a task" button, you
> >> >> will get nearest one to epicenter.
> >> >>
> >> >> - in many cases we need as match information as possible, but
> >> >> since we have not time, first thing todo are roads, power lines
> >> >> and residential areas. I think it will help to concentrate and
> >> >> coordinate this tasks better if hot-site will have multilevel
> >> >> tasks. Currently there is only "not ready", "ready" and
> >> >> "validated". How about "step one - roads", "step ... -
> >> >> buildings", "validated"?
> >> >>
> >> >> - power lines. how match are they important and if really
> >> >> important i would see some tool which allow creating tagged line
> >> >> and points at one shot.
> >> >>
> >> >> - are there any way to make some tag global for some task? for
> >> >> example source=bing. I use it only for HOT, and i use other tag
> >> >> for my town. It is some kind annoying if need to it all the time.
> >> >> Or may be there are some other options? Suggestions are welcome.
> >> >>
> >> >> - Currently it is second my job with lots of slums. May be some
> >> >> of them not really slums, but they are pain in ass if you need to
> >> >> draw them. Should we draw them? Or there is some kind of
> >> >> landuse=slum tag?
> >> >>
> >> >> -- Regards, Oleksij
> >> >>
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