[HOT] 1st Activation Working Group meeting report

Kate Chapman kate at maploser.com
Sun Mar 18 09:10:46 GMT 2012 

Hi Sev,

I think we'd have to look at what exactly that would mean for HOT.
The need to be skilled in ArcGIS was in my mind as well as for as
deploying.  Honestly, I don't have the ability to "not too crappy
maps" in ArcGIS.  Also I think this is outside of really what HOT will
be training on.

The other thing to note is when Nicolas and Robert began going to
Haiti in March 2010 I don't believe most people were interested in
training even at that time. The training classes were relatively small
and then began to grow in May and then explode in June of 2010 when
the initial emergency was well over and the long term slow emergencies
were continuing. In the initial response if we were to deploy I think
the need would be more to assist people in utilization of the data and
communicating needs to the greater OpenStreetMap community. But to
support that I think the remote response protocols will need to be
well in place.

-Kate

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Séverin MENARD <severin.menard at gmail.com> :
> Hi Francis,
>
> I totally agree regarding the $, we would need to be funded for this, but
> this is smth we could request based on these unique capacities. And
> definitely yes regarding the qualifications + the experience on disaster
> fields. I do not know how many of us have these capacities in the roster.
> Maybe not many, I do not know. This is one of the reasons why we started an
> internship program in Haiti.
> Reading Kate's answer in the meantime, seems not many :) I agree we may not
> be prepared for this now, but  from my experience this is smth we should try
> to strive for. As an example, if ever a huge disaster as the 2010 Haiti
> Earthquake or Pakistan floods occurs again, I would like to help on the
> ground again, but having to work for some big agencies losing my time on
> useless papermaps products rather than activate communities and HOT response
> (even if I could do it a bit in parallel) would be really frustrating. If we
> cannot propose a HOT deployment to a funder so far, maybe we could propose
> to UN agencies (e.g. OCHA), when they are looking for GIS consultants, to
> deploy one or two experienced (and vaccinated) Hotties for ground activities
> and coordination with the remote community. They normally expect consultants
> able to do not too crappy ArcGIS papermaps, while we can provide, by
> combining the skills, baseline data collected remotely by the volunteer
> effort and by local mappers, community activation supported by an Ushahidi
> platform, trainings, imagery, specific tools, etc., etc.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Fran Boon <francisboon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 16 March 2012 13:36, Séverin MENARD <severin.menard at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Soory I missed this chat but will be present to the next one.
>> > Remote response apart, what should be our potential ground deployment ?
>> >  I
>> > think a ground team who would activate and train quickly the local
>> > communities, could drive the HOT remote support, provide imagery
>> > feedbacks
>> > (precise GPS coordinates, interpretation, etc.) or even imagery itself
>> > taken
>> > by a drone (some tests are ongoing in Haiti) would make sense. IMHO
>> > HOT's
>> > kind of uniqueness is to be able to provide coordinated ground and
>> > remote
>> > response.
>>
>> Hi Severin,
>>
>> What you outline sounds great, however it requires an essential
>> element which remote support doesn't: $
>> A remote support can be done using relatively little volunteer time to
>> set up & then it's up to the community how much they're able to engage
>> in the actual work - as HOT we cannot be responsible for that - we
>> just set up the infrastructure and make the call (being careful not to
>> abuse this so we don't get volunteer fatigue).
>>
>> Ground support would either require HOT to have it's own funds or else
>> to have the requesting Organisation sponsor it (even if the time was
>> all donated).
>> I agree that we should have a clause in about this and this can start
>> by saying 'As HOT has no funds of it's own, a ground support request
>> would require the requesting organisation to find funds for this'
>> What else do we need to define around this?
>> * Role descriptions (I know Kate has done this)
>> * Being sure we don't send people out uninsured?
>> * Being sure that people we send out are suitably qualified?
>> * Being sure that people we send out are suitably equipped? (which
>> might not require very much)
>>
>> Anything else?
>>
>> F
>>
>>
>> > Severin
>> >
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>> >>   1. 1st Activation Working Group meeting report (Schuyler Erle)
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>> >> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:22:42 +0530
>> >> From: Schuyler Erle <schuyler at nocat.net>
>> >> To: hot at openstreetmap.org
>> >> Subject: [HOT] 1st Activation Working Group meeting report
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>> >> Hello Team,
>> >>
>> >> Today we had the first meeting of the HOT Activation Working Group on
>> >> the
>> >> IRC channel.  The meeting lasted an hour. Pierre Beland, Fran Boon,
>> >> Andrew
>> >> Buck, Robert Banick, Harry Wood, and I participated.
>> >>
>> >> The stated objective of the working group is to develop a strategy and
>> >> tactics for optimally allocating HOT's resources in response to
>> >> humanitarian
>> >> crisis. We noted that humanitarian crises range quite widely in
>> >> severity and
>> >> in level of international response, and that HOT's response should be
>> >> commensurate with the degree to which our services will be used by
>> >> responders on the ground.
>> >>
>> >> The substance of the discussion today revolved around identifying HOT's
>> >> possible responses to crisis (including documenting data sources,
>> >> acquiring
>> >> imagery, setting up volunteer tasking services, and mobilizing
>> >> volunteers),
>> >> and working backwards to identify the triggers for those activities.
>> >>
>> >> We also discussed at length the distinction between "activation", and
>> >> simply responding to requests made by partner organizations. We agreed
>> >> (I
>> >> believe) that prompt and reliable response to partner inquiries should
>> >> be a
>> >> priority for HOT and should be taken up as a subject for discussion and
>> >> recommendation by the working group.
>> >>
>> >> I think that the working group members agreed to start documenting some
>> >> of
>> >> these ideas on the OSM wiki for further discussion. We also agreed
>> >> after
>> >> talking for an hour to pick up the discussion again one week from
>> >> today, at
>> >> 14:00 UTC on Thu 22 Mar 2012.
>> >>
>> >> The IRC log for today's meeting is here:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OpenStreetMap_Team/Activation_Working_Group_22_Mar_2012
>> >>
>> >> Hope to see those of you who are interested in the subject on #hot next
>> >> Thursday! I'll send out a reminder a couple days ahead of time. Cheers!
>> >>
>> >> SDE
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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