[HOT] Voting Members

Thu Jan 3 16:20:12 GMT 2013

HOT is undoubtedly a worthwhile labor if love. Congratulations to our new voting members they have all put many important and thoughtful hours into this work. 

Schuyler, the world is a tangibly better place from your direct involvement and we are all motivated by the same ideals. The reward is knowledge of providing benefit, and, for me, knowledge that will help me build systems for wider applications. 

Maybe in that is a direction for the improved attendance, reward and social cohesion your message indicates?

Every system I have seen using OSM attempts to improve function and add value. Perhaps the wider HOT team has pet projects that might be motivating to work on and also help overall functionality. 

Your new voting members are each dedicated and qualified and I trust their motivations. 

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May contain incom
plete thoughts.

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>   3. Re: Congratulations to our new voting members! (Kate Chapman)
>   4. hot exports not updating? (maning sambale)
>   5. Re: Congratulations to our new voting members! (Roxroy Bollers)
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> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 12:17:28 -0800
> From: Schuyler Erle <schuyler at nocat.net>
> To: hot <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: [HOT] Congratulations to our new voting members!
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> Greetings, HOTties! and a happy new year to you all.
> 
> First, let me thank those of you who participated in the new member election in December. This year was the first time we were obliged to hold an actual vote for the new member induction, and enough of you finally submitted ballots to make it possible for me to welcome the following contributors to voting membership in our formal organization:
> 
>  * Robert Banick
>  * Jaakko Helleranta
>  * Heather Leson
>  * Tim Waters
> 
> All four inductees have devoted significant time to the Team in the past, and have rendered significant service for their efforts. We are proud to announce their induction, and hope that they will continue to provide the excellent contributions for which they have been justly recognized, and which make our organization capable of doing the work that we do.
> 
> I would like to offer recognition to the nominees who were not elected in this round. In particular, there were two individuals who have also devoted significant time and effort to HOT's work, who missed induction by only a single vote. I hope that we will be able to induct them, as well as the other worthy nominees from last month's ballot, in a future new member election.
> 
> On that note, the Board of Directors has been discussing the possibility of holding new member elections more frequently, in order to give participants in the organization more opportunities to get involved and have an active voice in the direction of the org. We are hoping to undertake, with your full involvement, an exploration and discussion of what it means to be a member of HOT, and what you all would like the direction of our Team to be over the next year. We are looking to conduct this discussion over the next few months, with the hope of holding another new member election later in the spring.
> 
> The nomination period for the Board of Directors election has been extended to January 9, end of day PST, as mentioned previously on the mailing list. The Board election will commence thereafter and continue until end of day January 16. We will send you voting instructions and other reminders about this over the next week.
> 
> If you have any comments or questions about this process, or thoughts you'd like to share on the Team and on the responsibilities of voting membership within the Team, I wholeheartedly invite you to reply to this message and kick off the discussion forthwith.
> 
> On behalf of your Board, I wish you all a happy and productive 2013!
> 
> SDE
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 12:57:34 -0800
> From: Schuyler Erle <schuyler at nocat.net>
> To: hot <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [HOT] Congratulations to our new voting members!
> Message-ID: <02097973-FCF2-4DAB-9CB8-B30B71FEB12C at nocat.net>
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> TL;DR: Everyone reading this is a member of HOT. Some of the people who aren't voting members are actually more "members" of HOT than those who are nominally entitled to vote in the organization. You are all doing work that has the amazing potential to make the world a better place. Thank you.
> 
> On Jan 2, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Schuyler Erle wrote:
> 
>> 
>> If you have any comments or questions about this process, or thoughts you'd like to share on the Team and on the responsibilities of voting membership within the Team, I wholeheartedly invite you to reply to this message and kick off the discussion forthwith.
> 
> Actually, speaking in an unofficial capacity, I'd like to start the discussion myself. First, I hope you will note that in my announcement I took great pains to emphasize that the election that we held last month was specifically to induct new _voting_ members.
> 
> I want everyone to note that the only reason we make any distinction at all between voting membership and any other form of participation in HOT is that, as a formally incorporated non-profit organization, our bylaws legally oblige us to maintain a set list of voting members who have certain duties. We do this because formal non-profit status makes it possible for us to obtain donations that vastly increase our ability to fulfill our mission.
> 
> The duties of voting members merely include electing the Board of Directors, altering the voting membership, and for approving changes to the bylaws themselves. Voting membership holds no other responsibilities, and no other distinction, beyond this.
> 
> In a real sense, if you are reading this message, you are truly a member of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team. Everyone who has ever edited the OSM database, or written a line of code, in the service of humanitarian relief and preparedness is a member of our team. It's your volunteer efforts that enable us collectively to make the world a better place, and to support the work of those who ease the suffering of people in need.
> 
> Without you, there would be no "Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team" worthy of the name. I think I can speak for the Board certainly, and perhaps everyone else, when I say that, voting member or otherwise, we appreciate all of the work that you selflessly put in on behalf of the team to help us achieve our goals and live up to our ideals of enabling humanitarian efforts through our maps and our software.
> 
> That said, I would like to note that many of our voting members barely fail to live up to the responsibilities that are expected of them by virtue of having been elected to such duties by their peers. I won't name names, but the fact is that getting some of you to vote in elections, and even getting you to fill out a simple form indicating your continued interest in the organization, feels like pulling teeth. I feel that voting membership in HOT begin the implicit responsibility of setting a positive example of activism, volunteerism, and engagement for the rest of the team. I will tell you honestly that I think some of you are terrible at this. If you think I am trying to shame you into being more involved, you are absolutely correct.
> 
> I will also admit that I am being pretty hypocritical in leveling this criticism at my friends and compatriots. But I think it has to be said.
> 
> What is the reward for all this work for which we are not paid and rarely thanked? It is simply the ability to go to sleep at night knowing that you have rendered a service to your fellow human beings, that you have made some contribution, however large, to improving the world for everyone. The maps that we make, and the work that we do to make them, have an impact on the world. They have saved lives, and helped communities in need. They will continue to do so, as long as we remain committed to the the idea that geographic information, freely made and freely shared, can transform our world for the better.
> 
> In this brief life that we share, I can think of no greater achievement than this to claim for ourselves, and I say that you claim it for yourself every time you exert yourself through the labors of our team. I hope that you will all take heart in this thought, and redouble your efforts in 2013, that we may see the world a year hence a more hospitable and more charitable place for everyone.
> 
> SDE
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 08:47:34 +0800
> From: Kate Chapman <kate at maploser.com>
> To: Schuyler Erle <schuyler at nocat.net>
> Cc: hot <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [HOT] Congratulations to our new voting members!
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I would like to echo Schuyler's comment that we wouldn't be able to do
> anything this without the help of volunteers. That said I would hope
> at some point we could make the membership mean something (other than
> just voting on the board).
> 
> When HOT was originally incorporated I envisioned issues of importance
> to the organization to be brought to the voting membership for
> discussion and decision making. This wouldn't be for everyday items,
> aimed more at the long term goals and strategy of the organization.
> One thing that I think lays in the way of this right now are the
> structural documents actually defining what membership is and a fair
> process to ensure those that desire and volunteer for HOT have the
> opportunity to become members.
> 
> What I mean by that is that currently we only nominate members once
> year. So far the main reason for this has been twofold. One the
> administrative burden of performing the nomination process, two having
> the membership be engaged in the nomination and voting process.
> Perhaps this is because most people are not clear on the process or
> they are happy with the ways things are with HOT and don't feel the
> need to vote. Or maybe there are other reasons.
> 
> To be clear though I would like the HOT community to discuss and
> attempt to come to decisions about the organization. This can only
> happen through clear dialogue.
> 
> Best,
> 
> -Kate
> 
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Schuyler Erle <schuyler at nocat.net> wrote:
>> TL;DR: Everyone reading this is a member of HOT. Some of the people who aren't voting members are actually more "members" of HOT than those who are nominally entitled to vote in the organization. You are all doing work that has the amazing potential to make the world a better place. Thank you.
>> 
>> On Jan 2, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Schuyler Erle wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> If you have any comments or questions about this process, or thoughts you'd like to share on the Team and on the responsibilities of voting membership within the Team, I wholeheartedly invite you to reply to this message and kick off the discussion forthwith.
>> 
>> Actually, speaking in an unofficial capacity, I'd like to start the discussion myself. First, I hope you will note that in my announcement I took great pains to emphasize that the election that we held last month was specifically to induct new _voting_ members.
>> 
>> I want everyone to note that the only reason we make any distinction at all between voting membership and any other form of participation in HOT is that, as a formally incorporated non-profit organization, our bylaws legally oblige us to maintain a set list of voting members who have certain duties. We do this because formal non-profit status makes it possible for us to obtain donations that vastly increase our ability to fulfill our mission.
>> 
>> The duties of voting members merely include electing the Board of Directors, altering the voting membership, and for approving changes to the bylaws themselves. Voting membership holds no other responsibilities, and no other distinction, beyond this.
>> 
>> In a real sense, if you are reading this message, you are truly a member of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team. Everyone who has ever edited the OSM database, or written a line of code, in the service of humanitarian relief and preparedness is a member of our team. It's your volunteer efforts that enable us collectively to make the world a better place, and to support the work of those who ease the suffering of people in need.
>> 
>> Without you, there would be no "Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team" worthy of the name. I think I can speak for the Board certainly, and perhaps everyone else, when I say that, voting member or otherwise, we appreciate all of the work that you selflessly put in on behalf of the team to help us achieve our goals and live up to our ideals of enabling humanitarian efforts through our maps and our software.
>> 
>> That said, I would like to note that many of our voting members barely fail to live up to the responsibilities that are expected of them by virtue of having been elected to such duties by their peers. I won't name names, but the fact is that getting some of you to vote in elections, and even getting you to fill out a simple form indicating your continued interest in the organization, feels like pulling teeth. I feel that voting membership in HOT begin the implicit responsibility of setting a positive example of activism, volunteerism, and engagement for the rest of the team. I will tell you honestly that I think some of you are terrible at this. If you think I am trying to shame you into being more involved, you are absolutely correct.
>> 
>> I will also admit that I am being pretty hypocritical in leveling this criticism at my friends and compatriots. But I think it has to be said.
>> 
>> What is the reward for all this work for which we are not paid and rarely thanked? It is simply the ability to go to sleep at night knowing that you have rendered a service to your fellow human beings, that you have made some contribution, however large, to improving the world for everyone. The maps that we make, and the work that we do to make them, have an impact on the world. They have saved lives, and helped communities in need. They will continue to do so, as long as we remain committed to the the idea that geographic information, freely made and freely shared, can transform our world for the better.
>> 
>> In this brief life that we share, I can think of no greater achievement than this to claim for ourselves, and I say that you claim it for yourself every time you exert yourself through the labors of our team. I hope that you will all take heart in this thought, and redouble your efforts in 2013, that we may see the world a year hence a more hospitable and more charitable place for everyone.
>> 
>> SDE
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 10:21:37 +0800
> From: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
> To: HOT <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: [HOT] hot exports not updating?
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> Hi,
> 
> Can anybody confirm that the hot-export tool is currently not
> updating?  I have a job for Typhoon Pablo [0].  I downloaded the data
> for 2012-12-19 and 2013-01-03  comparing the shapefile in QGIS, I
> cannot see any visual difference between the roads although much has
> been added since last month [1]
> 
> [0] http://hot-export.geofabrik.de/jobs/1399
> [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changesets?bbox=125.6058%2C7.23405%2C126.69971%2C8.3406&page=10
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 07:32:10 -0400
> From: Roxroy Bollers <rkbollers at gmail.com>
> To: Kate Chapman <kate at maploser.com>
> Cc: hot <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [HOT] Congratulations to our new voting members!
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Excellent Kate. I had similar thought but was not sure how to word it. Last
> thing you want volunteer to feel is less important.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Kate Chapman <kate at maploser.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I would like to echo Schuyler's comment that we wouldn't be able to do
>> anything this without the help of volunteers. That said I would hope
>> at some point we could make the membership mean something (other than
>> just voting on the board).
>> 
>> When HOT was originally incorporated I envisioned issues of importance
>> to the organization to be brought to the voting membership for
>> discussion and decision making. This wouldn't be for everyday items,
>> aimed more at the long term goals and strategy of the organization.
>> One thing that I think lays in the way of this right now are the
>> structural documents actually defining what membership is and a fair
>> process to ensure those that desire and volunteer for HOT have the
>> opportunity to become members.
>> 
>> What I mean by that is that currently we only nominate members once
>> year. So far the main reason for this has been twofold. One the
>> administrative burden of performing the nomination process, two having
>> the membership be engaged in the nomination and voting process.
>> Perhaps this is because most people are not clear on the process or
>> they are happy with the ways things are with HOT and don't feel the
>> need to vote. Or maybe there are other reasons.
>> 
>> To be clear though I would like the HOT community to discuss and
>> attempt to come to decisions about the organization. This can only
>> happen through clear dialogue.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> -Kate
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Schuyler Erle <schuyler at nocat.net> wrote:
>>> TL;DR: Everyone reading this is a member of HOT. Some of the people who
>> aren't voting members are actually more "members" of HOT than those who are
>> nominally entitled to vote in the organization. You are all doing work that
>> has the amazing potential to make the world a better place. Thank you.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 2, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Schuyler Erle wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If you have any comments or questions about this process, or thoughts
>> you'd like to share on the Team and on the responsibilities of voting
>> membership within the Team, I wholeheartedly invite you to reply to this
>> message and kick off the discussion forthwith.
>>> 
>>> Actually, speaking in an unofficial capacity, I'd like to start the
>> discussion myself. First, I hope you will note that in my announcement I
>> took great pains to emphasize that the election that we held last month was
>> specifically to induct new _voting_ members.
>>> 
>>> I want everyone to note that the only reason we make any distinction at
>> all between voting membership and any other form of participation in HOT is
>> that, as a formally incorporated non-profit organization, our bylaws
>> legally oblige us to maintain a set list of voting members who have certain
>> duties. We do this because formal non-profit status makes it possible for
>> us to obtain donations that vastly increase our ability to fulfill our
>> mission.
>>> 
>>> The duties of voting members merely include electing the Board of
>> Directors, altering the voting membership, and for approving changes to the
>> bylaws themselves. Voting membership holds no other responsibilities, and
>> no other distinction, beyond this.
>>> 
>>> In a real sense, if you are reading this message, you are truly a member
>> of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team. Everyone who has ever edited the
>> OSM database, or written a line of code, in the service of humanitarian
>> relief and preparedness is a member of our team. It's your volunteer
>> efforts that enable us collectively to make the world a better place, and
>> to support the work of those who ease the suffering of people in need.
>>> 
>>> Without you, there would be no "Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team" worthy
>> of the name. I think I can speak for the Board certainly, and perhaps
>> everyone else, when I say that, voting member or otherwise, we appreciate
>> all of the work that you selflessly put in on behalf of the team to help us
>> achieve our goals and live up to our ideals of enabling humanitarian
>> efforts through our maps and our software.
>>> 
>>> That said, I would like to note that many of our voting members barely
>> fail to live up to the responsibilities that are expected of them by virtue
>> of having been elected to such duties by their peers. I won't name names,
>> but the fact is that getting some of you to vote in elections, and even
>> getting you to fill out a simple form indicating your continued interest in
>> the organization, feels like pulling teeth. I feel that voting membership
>> in HOT begin the implicit responsibility of setting a positive example of
>> activism, volunteerism, and engagement for the rest of the team. I will
>> tell you honestly that I think some of you are terrible at this. If you
>> think I am trying to shame you into being more involved, you are absolutely
>> correct.
>>> 
>>> I will also admit that I am being pretty hypocritical in leveling this
>> criticism at my friends and compatriots. But I think it has to be said.
>>> 
>>> What is the reward for all this work for which we are not paid and
>> rarely thanked? It is simply the ability to go to sleep at night knowing
>> that you have rendered a service to your fellow human beings, that you have
>> made some contribution, however large, to improving the world for everyone.
>> The maps that we make, and the work that we do to make them, have an impact
>> on the world. They have saved lives, and helped communities in need. They
>> will continue to do so, as long as we remain committed to the the idea that
>> geographic information, freely made and freely shared, can transform our
>> world for the better.
>>> 
>>> In this brief life that we share, I can think of no greater achievement
>> than this to claim for ourselves, and I say that you claim it for yourself
>> every time you exert yourself through the labors of our team. I hope that
>> you will all take heart in this thought, and redouble your efforts in 2013,
>> that we may see the world a year hence a more hospitable and more
>> charitable place for everyone.
>>> 
>>> SDE
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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