[HOT] Central african republic import

[Simeon]

Hi,

First: Thanks for your quick and elaborate response.
Contrary to what I wrote before, the road I meant didnt disappear, it was downgraded to a path and 
the rest left as a secondary. But this still explaines one of the problems with imports:

You can do them automatically (using a separate account as it falls under the mechanical edit policy 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edit_Policy - at least thats how I understood it), 
but what do you do with the roads/rivers/places that are already there?
Especially if, like in this case, the data to be imported is from 2009 (at leastthats what the 
source tag says) and the Bing pictures are from 2003 (according to the bing aerial image analyzer). 
Many helpers like myself have used those images to trace various things  and will continue to do so; 
so there could be discrepancies.

Can we limit this task to "well-seasoned mappers". Or do we have enough people willing and able to 
get the job done using some kind of private task manager not open to the general public?

Whatever may happen, I am suer we can all agree that we should take all the data, help and people to 
help we can get.

Regards,

Simeon
Am 13.06.2013 13:26, schrieb Ben Abelshausen:
> Hi,
>
> This import was started as part of the EUROSHA project for the Central African Republic and after 
> the rebellion. The data being imported is served with the task, a new feature for the tasking 
> manager that we developed while in Cameroon. The data of the WRI can be served with the task as a 
> mapping aid.
>
> This is for now, an experiment but is meant to be executed I guess. I'm sure that Severin Menard, 
> the lead for HOT on this project, can also tell you something more about this.
>
> As far as I know there is some confusion about this task, a few of the blocking issues:
>
> - Do we need to use a seperate import account? (the import list is not very responsive)
> - Is the WRI data suited for this? Maybe partly using the data is something we can do.
> - This task is meant for well-seasoned mappers, is this something we can expect?
>
> This is my view on this little project and it's a bit sad to have all this data for a mostly 
> completely unmapped and from a humanitarian perspective very difficult country and not use it. I 
> think we should take every chance we get to improve the map for the CAR.
>
> If you have some suggestions on this, your thoughts are very very welcome on how to do this better.
>
> Met vriendelijke groeten,
> Best regards,
>
> Ben Abelshausen
> ben.abelshausen at gmail.com <mailto:ben.abelshausen at gmail.com>
> http://twitter.com/xivk
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Simeon <simeon-online at gmx.de <mailto:simeon-online at gmx.de>> wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     Does anyone know if the WRI import already started?
>     There is a wiki page:
>     https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_CAR_WRI_Data
>     and a task:
>     http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/219.
>     Although the task says that its only a test, someone started to import roads around N'Dele:
>     http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=8.39936&lon=20.69708&zoom=15&layers=M
>     The track there appears on my tiles as a teriary road, but in the dataset there is nothing
>     left but a new track with access=no. For me thats a strange combination, but the wiki pages
>     says so.
>     >From tha satelite image, this road is bigger than a track and comtinues further than the import.
>
>     I dont want to step on anyones toes, its just that I am confused why some roads disappeared
>     and that I havent heard anything about this import.
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Theodin
>
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