[HOT] [Talk-us] Black Forest Fire Update

[Murry McEntire]

The Bing images for the area appear to be from 2007
. (I've found a house mid-construction in the Bing images that was finished
in 2007).
So use caution before changing what someone else has entered based solely
on what you see in Bing. It is unlikely many structures disappeared between
2007 and the fire, but some may have increased in size I've added a few new
houses I know exist (or did a few days ago) as simple triangles since I do
not have an aerial image to outline them.

Mapbox Satellite, Mapquest Open Aerial, and USGS Large Scale Imagery have
the 2007 house finished but none have a house finished 2 years ago. Images
are much fuzzier, so I'd go with Bing unless someone can suggest something
better.

Interpolating addresses may have difficulties - many houses are not
associated with the closest street,  and  some lots are behind another for
the same street.
I'm entering addresses where I have them - including nodes next to the
street for vacant lots.
Debating if I should put a "note=vacant lot" on them.

I'm checking on an OSM license compatible access to a source of addresses;
will let you know if It comes through.

Addresses of destroyed houses are available; is there some tag or a note
that should (or could) be used  for a short period of time as opposed to
removing the house outline? It could be very useful to know for a month or
so where a destroyed house once was.  Even with the house gone, the address
is still valid for the lot, so no one should delete addresses.

Murry


On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Russell Deffner <russdeffner at gmail.com>wrote:

> Affectionately, in memory…****
>
> First: In the State of Colorado it is now unsafe to be within roughly the
> area of I-25 to the east, bounded by El Paso/Douglas/Elbert county lines on
> the north, and by Highway 24 on the east!  Please heed all evacuation
> areas/warnings/etc.!****
>
> ** **
>
> I am deeply saddened to inform the community that it has been confirmed
> that two (2) individuals were unable to escape the Black Forest Fire
> burning Northeast of Colorado Springs, CO. [1] and died while trying to
> evacuate.  I directly apologize to anyone who my words affect emotionally,
> I have been told I can be overly technical and miss the human side of the
> story.****
>
> ** **
>
> To be frank, being born and raised in Colorado, this is the most extreme
> humanitarian event conceivable for my neighbors.  I again ask the OSM-US
> community to lend a moment (or as much as possible) to map the ‘area of
> concern’ [1].****
>
> ** **
>
> Again, only remote mapping is suggested at this time.  Local knowledge to
> interpolate addressing would be an absolutely amazing advantage of OSM
> versus other mapping platforms, please refer to the wiki[2]; and if
> ‘mentors’ are available, please look at the changesets and you should see
> the ‘newbies’ who are doing their best but could use some guidance.****
>
> ** **
>
> P.S. I think it would still be beneficial to use the HOT Tasking Manager,
> even to simply have HOT ‘experts’ verify that the ‘square’ is ‘mapped to
> ‘US standards’…’****
>
> ** **
>
> Sincerely,****
>
> ** **
>
> Russell Deffner****
>
> russdeffner on OSM****
>
> russdeffner at gmail.com****
>
> ** **
>
> For issues directly related to American Red Cross Operations (I am not
> officially assigned to the DRO) please email me at –
> Russell.Deffner at redcross.org****
>
> ** **
>
> [1]Black Forest Fire, General Area: http://osm.org/go/TzfCTco-- ****
>
> [2]OSM wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org ****
>
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