[HOT] [Talk-us] Black Forest Fire Update

[Russell Deffner]

Just for the record, I don't disagree with Murry's suggestion and he and I
have talked about this face-to-face.  And I think you'd be the most local
expert on this one, please feel free to change my tags.

 

Thanks!

 

From: Murry McEntire [mailto:murry.mcentire at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 9:07 AM
To: Paul Norman
Cc: hot; OSM US Talk
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Black Forest Fire Update

 

 

 

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:26 AM, Paul Norman <penorman at mac.com> wrote:

What do you think we should do with what I would normally tag natural=wood?
There's plenty of woods in the residential areas that aren't mapped, but I'm
not sure how to handle them.

 

 

I was hoping long time users and experts would jump on this question. It
bothers me a little that land_use=forest is used in the area of the Black
Forest community as there hasn't been any real managed forest in the area
for decades. Historically it was the area that was logged to build early
Colorado Springs, and was over harvested so was no longer a forest. Then it
was replanted and brought back - but was also largely subdivided, so it is
now largely woodland covering residential lots. The lots are large, many 5
acres and up. It now does not seem to fit the definition of landuse=forest
of "Managed forest or woodland plantation".

The land cover is definitely trees in much of the area so natural=wood
certainly fits and doen't conflict with landuse=residential but can
complement it. natural=wood "Woodland where timber production does not
dominate use."
 

How landuse=forest is presented on renderers makes a resident of the Western
United States think of National Forest land, as that is what other maps do.
It might lead some, rightly or wrongly, to think of hikes and camping can be
done there, but it is mostly peoples yards. The parks and open space of the
area have been marked very well (and are mostly forested). The county
contains much actual National Forest, just not in this area.

I am also aware that the tags can be badly defined, I'm trying to change
that elsewhere now, but landuse=forest and natural=wood look to be good
definitions. So experts, what is the proper way to map this?  I'm just a
casual mapper in OSM since April :-)

Murry

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