[HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by the rebels

Mikel Maron mikel_maron at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 26 13:41:52 UTC 2013


Hi

Great news on the data release. I've been working with this data as well in another context, and we have noticed good accuracy in many places, varying accuracy in others. So data import should be constructed as not only conflation with existing OSM data, but also comparison to other data sources (bing imagery, as it is ... though can be hard to judge with the canopy). 

And even better would be involvement of the community of folks who are working with this data in Central Africa, and here in DC. If we can develop a community around this import, and the ongoing improvement and use of the data, going to be a strong initiative. There are several organizations here, and WRI is hq'd here. I don't know as much about WRI's operation in Central Africa, and how the data was originally collected, but what I'm thinking about is something like a series of multi-city, time focused, mapping party activities. 

Best
-Mikel
 
* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron


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> From: Jorieke Vyncke <jorieke.vyncke at gmail.com>
>To: Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr>; pdouard at wri.org 
>Cc: "hot at openstreetmap.org" <hot at openstreetmap.org> 
>Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 3:38 PM
>Subject: Re: [HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by the rebels
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>Hi Pierre, 
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>Thanks for your mail! 
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>About the license: the data of the World Resource Institute is
compatible with the license: ODbL. We got the signed permission from Pascal
Douard from the World Resource Institute. You can find the authorization in the
attachment. At this moment we are also working on a wiki page with more
information about the data
(http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Central_Africa_Import).
> 
>After our first analysis of the data, we considered the data of very
high quality. For Cameroon it is even the best data we have in comparing with
all the other data we could collect. You can find their data on the website of
the WRI, but the specific links to the data of which we have the permission;
you can find it on the authorization in the attachment. Pascal also promised us
to give us, as soon as possible (after their verification), the latest version
of the data of the road network of the CAR and the DRC.
> 
>Best regards,
> Jorieke
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>Okay... the attachment is not working... but you will find the authorisations soon on the wiki!
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>2013/3/25 Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr>
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>>Hi Jorieke
>>
>>
>>This is very interesting to have the possibility to collaborate with people on the ground and use eventually imports to have a better map. In the context of humanitarian activations, it is important to work in a coordinate manner and discuss before suchimports are done.
>>
>>First, we havetobe careful and before importing any data into OSM, we have to follow a strict procedure to assure that the data is published with a license compatible with ODbL. We have to know the original producer of the data, how it was collected, and evaluate how good is the georeferencing. We also have to validate if the license is compatible.  Do you have any information about that?
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>>I coordinate the current activation in DR Congo with Claire Halleux. I would like to look atthe data that is contained in these files andsee how it can help us for the DRC Activation before anything is setup with these files.
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>>Could you please send me a copy of this data?
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>>Pierre 
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>>>________________________________
>>> De : Jorieke Vyncke <jorieke.vyncke at gmail.com>
>>>À : hot at openstreetmap.org; pdouard at wri.org 
>>>Envoyé le : Lundi 25 mars 2013 12h53
>>>Objet : Re: [HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by the rebels
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi
everybody,
>>>
>>>
>>>Here a
message from (a part) of the Eurosha-team who was working till the end of
December in the Central-African Republic, and had to move because of the
security situation. We are really glad to see your activity on the current crisis
in the Central-African Republic. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At this
moment we are working in Cameroon, for Cameroon, but of course also for the
CAR! Last week we obtained the permission to use the data of the World Recourse
Institute (WRI) for the CAR and the DRC. This data (localities, road network, etc)
can be very useful for the humanitarian actors on the field at this moment. For
this reason we are now busy with setting up as soon as possible the importation
process. And it is in this we need some help of you guys. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Because we
don’t really like the massive data importations as this would conflict with the
existing data and could get very messy, we propose a crowd-sourced way to
verify and import the data using the tasking manager. We have converted the
existing shapefiles to OSM-XML format already and have setup a service that can
serve the data into JOSM as follows:
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.osmsharp.com:815/data/16748/10966/15/matrix.osm
>>>
>>>
>>>The data
served is just a test area; the real converted data will be there soon. A
request like this will return only data inside the requested tile. Any existing
OSM file can very quickly be served on the site this way.
>>>
>>>
>>>We think it
would be a very efficient and nice way to process and convert the data into OSM
using the tasking manager if we could add a field or link to it that could load
the data from the above url straight into JOSM or provide it as a download link
in the task itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>Using this
method all the humanitarian-relevant data can be converted and imported very
quickly. But this means we need help from somebody to modify the tasking
manager just a little bit to make this possible.
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>The EUROSHA
TEAM
>>>
>>>
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