[HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by the rebels

Tue Mar 26 15:09:26 UTC 2013

Hi all,

I'm currently trying to do a quick and dirty addition to the tasking
manager to manager the given link in the task instructions.
I hope I will have something working soon.

Pierre

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Ben Abelshausen
<ben.abelshausen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm here in Cameroon with some of the EUROSHA people helping out a little
> (with Jorieke Vyncke) and I have some pratical questions.
>
> We have been working for the past couple of days to convert the existing
> shapefiles to OSM format (converting to the correct tags etc...). Before we
> mentioned our plan was to serve the data with the tasking manager and allow
> the verification (when possible) and mapping of the data into OSM.
>
> One of the files of the converted data containing localities is available
> already for DRC:
>
> http://www.osmsharp.com:815/data/144/129/8/WRI_RDC_localities_2009.osm (the
> localities)
>
> This data would be served in a task at zoom level 8 at location 144 - 129.
>
> My questions is now: Do we continue with this work or do you guys think this
> 'conversion->taskingmanager->mapping' way of working is not the way to go
> for this data? The eurosha group here thinks this is the best solution
> because, similar to what Mikel was saying, this way we are involving the OSM
> community in general and the data is veryfied before 'importing'.
>
> AND: Thanks again to pascal and WRI!!
>
> Met vriendelijke groeten,
> Best regards,
>
> Ben Abelshausen
> ben.abelshausen at gmail.com <ben.abelshausen at gmail.be>
> http://twitter.com/xivk <http://twitter.com/xivk>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Pascal Douard <PDouard at wri.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Mikel,
>>
>> Just may be to give an info, the road had been collected through Landsat
>> images observation and completed with GPS field observation.
>>
>> Some of the logging roads had been provided by the timber companies,
>> sometimes one track for a network of roads.
>>
>> As I mentioned yesterday to the Eurosha-team, I will be providing the
>> latest road network we have for CAR and DRC, from late 2012. It won’t be
>> helping at a town scale but more at the national scale.
>>
>> I also would be interested to participate to a mapping party if this can
>> help.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Pascal
>>
>>
>>
>> Pascal Douard
>>
>> GIS Research Associate, People and Ecosystems
>>
>> World Resources Institute
>>
>> 10 G Street, NE, Suite 800
>>
>> Washington, DC 20002 USA
>>
>> www.WRI.org
>>
>>
>>
>> Direct: +1 202-729-7652
>>
>> pdouard at wri.org | Skype:pascalfromauvergne | Twitter: @worldresources
>>
>>
>>
>> WRI focuses on the intersection of the environment and socio-economic
>> development. We go beyond research to put ideas into action, working
>> globally with governments, business, and civil society to build
>> transformative solutions that protect the earth and improve people’s lives.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Mikel Maron [mailto:mikel_maron at yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:42 AM
>> To: Jorieke Vyncke; Pierre Béland; Pascal Douard
>> Cc: hot at openstreetmap.org
>>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by
>> the rebels
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> Great news on the data release. I've been working with this data as well
>> in another context, and we have noticed good accuracy in many places,
>> varying accuracy in others. So data import should be constructed as not only
>> conflation with existing OSM data, but also comparison to other data sources
>> (bing imagery, as it is ... though can be hard to judge with the canopy).
>>
>>
>>
>> And even better would be involvement of the community of folks who are
>> working with this data in Central Africa, and here in DC. If we can develop
>> a community around this import, and the ongoing improvement and use of the
>> data, going to be a strong initiative. There are several organizations here,
>> and WRI is hq'd here. I don't know as much about WRI's operation in Central
>> Africa, and how the data was originally collected, but what I'm thinking
>> about is something like a series of multi-city, time focused, mapping party
>> activities.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best
>>
>> -Mikel
>>
>>
>>
>> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: Jorieke Vyncke <jorieke.vyncke at gmail.com>
>> To: Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr>; pdouard at wri.org
>> Cc: "hot at openstreetmap.org" <hot at openstreetmap.org>
>> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 3:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by
>> the rebels
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Pierre,
>>
>> Thanks for your mail!
>>
>>
>>
>> About the license: the data of the World Resource Institute is compatible
>> with the license: ODbL. We got the signed permission from Pascal Douard from
>> the World Resource Institute. You can find the authorization in the
>> attachment. At this moment we are also working on a wiki page with more
>> information about the data
>> (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Central_Africa_Import).
>>
>>
>>
>> After our first analysis of the data, we considered the data of very high
>> quality. For Cameroon it is even the best data we have in comparing with all
>> the other data we could collect. You can find their data on the website of
>> the WRI, but the specific links to the data of which we have the permission;
>> you can find it on the authorization in the attachment. Pascal also promised
>> us to give us, as soon as possible (after their verification), the latest
>> version of the data of the road network of the CAR and the DRC.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Jorieke
>>
>>
>> Okay... the attachment is not working... but you will find the
>> authorisations soon on the wiki!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/3/25 Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr>
>>
>>
>> Hi Jorieke
>>
>>
>>
>> This is very interesting to have the possibility to collaborate with
>> people on the ground and use eventually imports to have a better map. In the
>> context of humanitarian activations, it is important to work in a coordinate
>> manner and discuss before such imports are done.
>>
>>
>>
>> First, we have to be careful and before importing any data into OSM, we
>> have to follow a strict procedure to assure that the data is published with
>> a license compatible with ODbL. We have to know the original producer of the
>> data, how it was collected, and evaluate how good is the georeferencing. We
>> also have to validate if the license is compatible.  Do you have any
>> information about that?
>>
>>
>>
>> I coordinate the current activation in DR Congo with Claire Halleux. I
>> would like to look at the data that is contained in these files and see how
>> it can help us for the DRC Activation before anything is setup with these
>> files.
>>
>>
>> Could you please send me a copy of this data?
>>
>>
>>
>> Pierre
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> De : Jorieke Vyncke <jorieke.vyncke at gmail.com>
>> À : hot at openstreetmap.org; pdouard at wri.org
>>
>> Envoyé le : Lundi 25 mars 2013 12h53
>> Objet : Re: [HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by the
>> rebels
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>>
>>
>> Here a message from (a part) of the Eurosha-team who was working till the
>> end of December in the Central-African Republic, and had to move because of
>> the security situation. We are really glad to see your activity on the
>> current crisis in the Central-African Republic.
>>
>>
>>
>> At this moment we are working in Cameroon, for Cameroon, but of course
>> also for the CAR! Last week we obtained the permission to use the data of
>> the World Recourse Institute (WRI) for the CAR and the DRC. This data
>> (localities, road network, etc) can be very useful for the humanitarian
>> actors on the field at this moment. For this reason we are now busy with
>> setting up as soon as possible the importation process. And it is in this we
>> need some help of you guys.
>>
>>
>>
>> Because we don’t really like the massive data importations as this would
>> conflict with the existing data and could get very messy, we propose a
>> crowd-sourced way to verify and import the data using the tasking manager.
>> We have converted the existing shapefiles to OSM-XML format already and have
>> setup a service that can serve the data into JOSM as follows:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.osmsharp.com:815/data/16748/10966/15/matrix.osm
>>
>>
>>
>> The data served is just a test area; the real converted data will be there
>> soon. A request like this will return only data inside the requested tile.
>> Any existing OSM file can very quickly be served on the site this way.
>>
>> We think it would be a very efficient and nice way to process and convert
>> the data into OSM using the tasking manager if we could add a field or link
>> to it that could load the data from the above url straight into JOSM or
>> provide it as a download link in the task itself.
>>
>>
>>
>> Using this method all the humanitarian-relevant data can be converted and
>> imported very quickly. But this means we need help from somebody to modify
>> the tasking manager just a little bit to make this possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> The EUROSHA TEAM
>>
>>
>>
>>
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